At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by plandis on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:00AM (#15175214)

In my opinion, some of the policies of the Republican Party seem downright evil to me. Restrict the civil rights of gays and Muslims (Trump himself stated that he was going to start a Muslim ban, he asked people to make it legal but the intent was very clear and stated by Trump several times: Muslim ban). They also want to restrict information on the internet which seems pretty evil to me (modern day book banning). They want to deport kids who have lived in the US their whole lives through no fault of their own.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by austenallred on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:06AM (#15175272)

I don't agree with those policies, but can you imagine any non-evil reason a rational person would hold those beliefs?

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by taylodl on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:18AM (#15175400)

Fear. Fear of the other. Fear of a widening disparity between the haves and have-nots - and they're increasingly in the have-not category. Fear that their children won't be able to do as well or better than they did. Fear. And Donald Trump expertly capitalized on that fear while Hillary chose to ignore it. Trump won. I'm not convinced we progressives/liberals fully understand this because we're still ignoring this fear.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by AmIFirstToThink on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @11:29PM (#15180985)

Just Fear, or fear of risks materializing?

The risk materialized for victims of terrorism.

The risk materialized for victims of drug gangs.

The risk materialized for victims of illegal aliens committing crimes including identity theft.

The risk materialized for victims of outsourcing. The risk materialized of well paying manufacturing jobs disappearing.

It's wasn't fear, it was the materialized risk. Many voted for Obama overcoming fear, choosing hope. But they realized you can't just choose hope, you have to go and bend reality to be what you want it to be. And they put a bend in flow of reality, choosing Trump.

The elite fail to sympathize with their own countrymen in peril, because having compassion for your fellow countryman means you were being a 'xenophobe'. That label is not very vogue in elite circles.

I, for one, am glad that the risk of Trump being elected materialized.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by mfringel on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:11AM (#15175328)

Define "rational". If you mean "Can someone justify those beliefs to themselves through a logical chain, while allowing for personal belief systems", then yes, of course, there are plenty of non-evil reasons a rational person could hold those.

However, you can still have irreconcilable differences in belief systems at an existential level.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by plandis on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @11:09AM (#15175956)

Logical reason for wanting to restrict the rights of gay people and ban all Muslims? I'm all ears, I literally cannot think of a rational reason for supporting such policies.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by narrowrail on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @11:42AM (#15176296)

The guy is a pathological liar, there is not one proposal I've seen that would, "restrict the rights of gay people" or "ban all Muslims."

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by CalChris on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:15AM (#15175367)

No, I can't. And it really isn't up to my imagination either. If this 'rational' person has a 'rational' argument for wanting to ban Muslims or gays then let's hear it because I can't imagine it. Yes, you will get pushback on that.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by combo432 on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:40AM (#15175639)

It wasn't a Muslim ban. The ban didn't include Malaysia, Indonesia, or Algeria for instance and many other Muslim countries. There were 6 countries on the travel ban list. There are 50 Muslim-majority countries in the world.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by zimpenfish on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:47AM (#15175706)

POTUS himself called it a Muslim ban several times, especially when asking Giuliani how to accomplish a Muslim ban legally.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by CalChris on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:47AM (#15175700)

Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on

That's a quote.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by Agustus on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @11:55AM (#15176422)

That is not a quote, that is a paraphrasing of whatever the original statement was.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by CalChris on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:10PM (#15176558)

That's a quote:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer...

You may not like that fact but it remains a fact. Extra points for referring to himself in the third person because, you know, Obama was so arrogant.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by JSONwebtoken on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:19AM (#15175416)

Honestly, none of those things matter to me. I vote on the second amendment and fiscal policy. As a libertarian, I am an advocate for civil rights, clean energy, equality, and so forth. I care about those issues, but you can't be a moderate without making idealogical compromises.

Net neutrality was a disappointment, but myself and others in the tech community will learn to deal with the inconvenience.

The plight of illegal immigrants and the "religion of peace" has zero relevance to me, I simply don't care enough one way or the other to vote in favor of them.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by otp124 on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @01:37PM (#15177371)

Let's rewind a bit of history and look back to what the Democratic Party did to civil rights and a race for the next 100+ years after a bold Republican emancipated the slaves. People everywhere can do horrible, horrible things. Read your history books, and try hard to prevent history from repeating itself.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by Can_Not on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @07:02PM (#15179814)

Let's not pretend as if political parties are immutable over periods of time such as 150 years.

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by closeparen on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @12:04AM (#15181128)

Do you seriously think there's any moral correspondence whatsoever between trying to make a living in the US against its will, and owning/importing slaves?

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Re:At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics... by AmIFirstToThink on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @01:34PM (#15185519)

A person alive today, who happens to be white, never owned slaves in his life. Why is left hell bent on punishing that white person for some crimes that that person's ancestors, may have done. Most whites never owned slaved even in those days. It was white people who fought for and paid with their lives ending slavery.

Left wants to hold all whites responsible for crimes of slavery.

Left wants to give clean sheet to DACA recipients for crimes of their parents.

Why do you want to hold kids responsible for parents crimes when it comes to white people?

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