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Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by ianai on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:18PM (#15156756)
Wrong question. Right question: how can we get people to make quality bread instead of the trans fatty/overly salty stuff flooding the shelves?
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by Broken_Hippo on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:35PM (#15156873)
Subsidize correctly. I'd suggest first and foremost subsidizing healthier flours and seeds/nuts destined for breadmaking. We'll probably need some tax breaks or other sorts of incentives so that mills can scale the product correctly. One of the advantages of using the more refined flours (the all-purpose flour you can buy anywhere) is large-scale production.

And then add a tax to either the more refined flours (which is likely to make sweet baked goods go up in price as well) or simply tax the more unhealthy white bread and buns so they aren't nearly as affordable.

Edit: I'll mention that some salt is actually good for bread making, as it balances out the yeast. I'm not sure if this is such a problem on an industrial scale since they can control variables much better than the home cook. In addition, it tastes weird without salt. but it doesn't take all that much to satisfy the physical and taste requirements.

Furthermore, I'll advocate for a bit of fat in the bread, though it should come from healthy sources. This helps bread not go stale so quickly, and I'm actually more concerned about unnecessary preservatives.

Finally, an afterthought: We should make sure to make the healthy bread convenient and available, even in a food desert.

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by prostoalex on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:23PM (#15157150)
> I'd suggest first and foremost subsidizing healthier flours and seeds/nuts

Huge Pandora's box right there with California nut farmers. Basically, way back a bunch of people bought cheap land and then bought politicians to build the water infrastructure to make that privately owned land commercially viable. Now that water supply is unreliable, there's a movement to force the California taxpayers to boost the nut producers' profits, which some people disagree with.

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by Broken_Hippo on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:52PM (#15157306)
I figure that is a different problem. If folks have some foresight on such things, we could make appropriate requirements. Almonds, for example, might be too cost prohibitive to subsidize and they shouldn't be in areas where they are contributing to depleting the water supply.

Quinoa, sunflower seeds, peanuts, poppy seeds, and so on could easily be done.

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by WalterSear on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:42PM (#15157255)
>Finally, an afterthought: We should make sure to make the healthy bread convenient and available, even in a food desert.

Food deserts may not actually be the problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/health/research/pairing-of...

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by Broken_Hippo on Saturday September 02, 2017 @02:00PM (#15157350)
That's quite interesting, thank you. I'll now correct the information in my brain.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by davewongillies on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:03PM (#15157032)
Adding to this, desubsidize corn to the point where it no longer makes sense to add HFCS to regular bread that isn't meant to be a dessert.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by Broken_Hippo on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:57PM (#15157329)
I have mixed feelings on this - mostly, if we do such a thing, we'll need to replace it with something. I think corn farmers really wouldn't have an issue planting sugar beets instead, so long as the various corn sugars (Including but not limited to HFCS) aren't a byproduct of another process. Without some sort of safety net for farmers, it could really hurt some folks, mostly because I'm assuming different harvesting attachments are used for the two crops and what side industries might be hurt (whatever we use corn cobs for, for example). But I simply don't know the answer to this.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by rugffgbv on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:39PM (#15156896)
Right question is how to get people to eat whole grain bread. It has 2x or 3x of vitamins and minerals.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/-/media/Images/MEN/Editorial/...

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by ianai on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:29PM (#15157184)
I wonder if it's a leavening thing. What I like most about French, for instance, is the lightness.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by davewongillies on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:46PM (#15156941)
Atleast in the US I'd just like it to be not so hard to find bread without sugar added it. Why do I have to resort to eating sour dough all the time just to do that?
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by tomohawk on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:51PM (#15156967)
At the major grocer in our area, there's only 1 brand that isn't sweetened. It's a traditional pita bread. If I had to guess, this represents .5% of the bread sold there.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by fenwick67 on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:34PM (#15156865)
Salt is not bad for you
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by KhanMahGretsch on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:51PM (#15156963)
Not only is it not bad for you, it's essential for a healthy diet.

It appears to me that refined-corn and sugar are the two worst culprits for poor nutrition.

Edit: Eater always cracks me up with their alarmist headlines and fascination with shoe-horning identity politics into articles. Not to be taken seriously IMO.

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by ianai on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:18PM (#15157120)
True, but I shouldn't be maxing out my daily intake on a quarter loaf of French bread.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by stale2002 on Saturday September 02, 2017 @04:07PM (#15157929)
In the context of the American diet, yes, yes it is.

Most people's diet contains way too much salt, and therefore it is completely honest to say that salt is "bad for you".

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by uoaei on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:37PM (#15156884)
Too much of anything can be bad for you.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by votepaunchy on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:47PM (#15156942)
Too little of anything can be bad for you. By definition.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by stale2002 on Saturday September 02, 2017 @04:05PM (#15157919)
And furthermore, the vast majority of people in the USA are not having too little salt.

The vast majority of them have way way too much salt in their diet, therefore it is perfectly honest to say that high sodium content in food in the USA is "bad for you", because we live in a context where too much salt is the problem, and not too little.

Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by tnorthcutt on Saturday September 02, 2017 @01:16PM (#15157100)
Arsenic? Cyanide? Mercury?
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by Retra on Saturday September 02, 2017 @03:24PM (#15157746)
They're being pedantic (probably to highlight the complete lack of useful information provided by the post they responded to.) "Too little" means "not enough" and "not enough" is not enough by definition. There's no such thing as "not enough" of those things because none is enough.
Re:How Do We Solve America’s Oversupply of Bread? by QAPereo on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:22PM (#15156782)
Education. It's not quick or pretty, but education is the key.