Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by zimpenfish on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @10:38AM
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The flaw there is that then interferes with payment because your hand is in the way of the payment doodad - a lot of the ones in the UK that I've encountered are designed for flat contactless credit cards, not "phone with hand underneath".
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Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by mikeash on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:13AM
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NFC is short range but not that short range. You usually need a finger on the back of the phone anyway just to hold it.
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by zimpenfish on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:35AM
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But for stability, it would need to be high up the back - I can't physically hold the phone stable and have my index finger sufficiently on the back for sensoring unless it's at least halfway up and central.
Also, having just tested, this completely blocks thumb usage - there's just no way it can be done!
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by mikeash on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:42AM
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I don't get it. I can comfortably hold my phone pinched between my thumb and index fingers at just about any location. The finger on the bottom just needs to be a little closer to the center of gravity. A sensor where my 6+ says "iPhone" on the back (about 1.5" above the bottom) would work fine. But even if the sensor was up high, so what? It'll still work if your finger is between the phone and the reader.
As for the thumb, just flip your phone over. Although this would suck if you need any visual feedback, obviously.
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by zimpenfish on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:32AM
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> I can
Yeah but you != me. And I am by no means the least dextrous person I know.
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by mikeash on Thursday August 31, 2017 @02:53PM
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I can't picture how a lack of dexterity would prevent this. But even if it did, we're back to my original point about range: it's OK to have your fingers in between, it'll still work.
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by hdabrows on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:20AM
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You can "pre-arm" Apple Pay before moving the phone close to the reader.
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by zimpenfish on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:32AM
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You still need your finger on the sensor when it actually triggers - difficult when the device you're interacting with isn't expecting a finger but a flat card.
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by jfaat on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @10:56AM
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so flip the phone over?
Re:iOS 11 Dock and Gesture Controls to Replace 'iPhone 8' Ho...
by zimpenfish on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:31AM
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Does the NFC sensor work through the phone like that?