Re:A backlash against the herbicide Dicamba
by gvd on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @12:27AM
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But they might be pushing the actual cost of growing that food into the future.
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Re:A backlash against the herbicide Dicamba
by manicdee on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @12:36AM
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About 300 years of rock phosphate left at current rates of comsumption. We need to start farming phophates in the sea, where all our water soluble nutrients eventually end up.
Re:A backlash against the herbicide Dicamba
by gambiting on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @05:03AM
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Where does the phosphate go after it's used? Surely it doesn't disappear from the environment?
Re:A backlash against the herbicide Dicamba
by Spooky23 on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @08:27AM
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In the US, much of it washes down into the Mississippi and Gulf of Mexico, where it kills the gulf and feeds algae.
Re:A backlash against the herbicide Dicamba
by ajross on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @12:00PM
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Phosphates are water-soluble, they enter the hydrology wherever it goes, which means that long term they end up in the ocean.
But this isn't quite the big deal that it's made out to be. Mineral phosphorous mining is cheaper than other sources, but phosphate isn't rare or going away. It's literally present in all biomass by definition: phosphate groups are the bonds that tie the links together in RNA and DNA, and it can be extracted from biomass trivially (i.e. composting, or even incineration), albeit at somewhat higher cost. Given that agricultural output is currently almost free, that's hardly going to break society.
Re:A backlash against the herbicide Dicamba
by cucuuc on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @06:12AM
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That's his point: It ends up at the sea. We'll have to spend muchblarger amounts of energy to recover a diluted resource.
Re:A backlash against the herbicide Dicamba
by flyGuyOnTheSly on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @01:30AM
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I think gvd was referring to herbicide resistance rather than fertilizer stocks.