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Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by jahnu on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @05:44PM (#15127864)
I've said it before, this video demo is one of the very best I've ever seen.

https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml

So well prepared, so well presented, so little that could be removed without ruining it.

I aspire to do such good demos but always fall so short.

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by exikyut on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @08:29PM (#15128784)
Thanks for sharing that! I was convinced to watch it from all the other recommendations and can concur (FWIW at this point) that it was well worth it.

The camerawork was excellent and the demonstration integration/trinket-wielding was seamlessly done. I get the impression the people who made this had a case of "let's use the ThinkPad for this, and let's do it this and that way," and they pulled it off so perfectly, exactly how engineers wish would happen.

If you ever need a reference demo for "open-source software can make good looking presentations," this would be on the shortlist, I think. (The credits say it was made using Cinerella, for reference.)

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by derefr on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @01:52AM (#15129964)
I think one thing that made this happen is that this is a presentation made to exercise an interactive software tool that—although it can also be used for one's own experimentation—was mainly written to be used in the presentation. It's a case of making a custom "musical instrument" crafted to play exactly the song you're about to play on it. A lot like Bret Victor's "puppet controller" app in his presentation Stop Drawing Dead Fish (https://vimeo.com/64895205); or the actually-an-instrument "MIDI fighter" created by Shawn Wasabi for his music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAeybdD5UoQ, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj2eUpt3MVE).
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by combatentropy on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @07:08PM (#15128370)
> this video demo is one of the very best I've ever seen

I have said the same thing. I was a film major, a video producer, and a tech writer (now a programmer), and I am in awe.

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by shmerl on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @08:22PM (#15128750)
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by h3h4 on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @01:50AM (#15129959)
I loved the casual and original expressions of the host, it made the whole demo look much more authentic and convincing. Pure presentations like this is truly an work of art. Hats off to it.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by kaishiro on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @06:53PM (#15128278)
Thank you, this really is a great watch. Particularly the zero point stuff re: stairstepping - I had no idea this was merely a function of display.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by AceJohnny2 on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @07:22PM (#15128471)
Monty Montgomery, the author, hangs around here as id=xiphmont :)
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by IgorPartola on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @07:13PM (#15128404)
That is fantastic. The presenter manages to pull of "charismatic engineer" really well.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by obrajesse on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @12:49AM (#15129792)
Well, he is a very charismatic engineer...
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by osrec on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @07:07PM (#15128366)
09:30 to 10:30 explains the effects of quantisation extremely well! Overall, that is one of the clearest, no frills, to the point videos I've ever seen.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by Baeocystin on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @07:51AM (#15131331)
I thought you were being a bit hyperbolic until I watched it. Nope, it was stellar. Thanks for posting it for those of us who hadn't seen it, it was fun, and even better, I learned some things about something I thought I already understood.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by dm319 on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @05:38AM (#15130825)
Apart from it being a great video, I'm sad to say that I'm surprised my phone isn't burning my fingers after watching all the way through it. It's like these people know something about multimedia on the internet.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by drawkbox on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @09:55PM (#15129156)
Noise shaping dither filters are amazing and so is the video, quite educational. I have never been more interested in signal processing than during this video.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by harpiaharpyja on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @11:17PM (#15129484)
Read the article, but didn't look at the video until seeing your comment. Thanks, that was indeed an excellent demo video.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by rblatz on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @08:38PM (#15128812)
Unfortunately this video doesn't work on iOS. I'll try to remember to watch this next time I'm at a computer.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by cornstalks on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @09:53PM (#15129151)
It's available on YouTube[1] as well, which should work just about everywhere.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by rblatz on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @10:34PM (#15129325)
Thanks!
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by Mizza on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @03:17AM (#15130245)
Thanks for sharing! Well worth the watch, and gave me a bonus dose of ASMR. Commenting needlessly to show my appreciation and to hopefully inspire a future version of myself to watch this again.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by mathgenius on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @09:59AM (#15132169)
This reminds me, class D amplifiers are effectively using only 1-bit sampling (!!), the trick being it uses a high sample rate. And these are some of the best amplifiers around.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by hammock on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @07:57PM (#15128632)
That's pretty amazing.. why wouldnt he set up his own sound to eliminate more of that signal generator fan noise though. So distracting.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by xiphmont on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @02:10AM (#15130015)
I did, but I didn't want to wear a lapel mic for the video and deal with the extra hassle. It was just me (no helpers) and a couple cameras. Wired mics suspended overhead kept sound setup from adding to the logistics for each take.

The sound was done similarly to the previous video, which hadn't drawn comments. This time though, a sizable fraction of people said it was distracting.

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by Applejinx on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @06:19AM (#15130969)
And yet you insist on being the authority for what's permissible? I think you should stop publicly clamoring for limitations to audio resolution on the grounds that you're not representative of enough listeners. I don't mind one bit that you don't hear these things, or that you represent even a majority of people who don't hear these things… but they don't represent the market for commercial audio. You're doing harm, please stop.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by esaym on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @06:12PM (#15128069)
Wow, that was awesome!
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by rplst8 on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @09:25AM (#15131917)
Wow, I hadn't seen this until now,but it is definitely the best video I've ever watched to explain the basics of digital sampling. Great find!
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by gbog on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:37PM (#15137996)
Well I disagree. The background music on transitional slides can be removed. The rethorical questions ("let's pretend we do not know about digital audio") are just time fillers. Waving the hands toward an inscrustation looks as silly as the meteo girls "playing with flies in front of a green screen" on all TVs worldwide.

It is the same with most "well-written" articles in newspapers nowadays. We do not even feel it but its just canned food, a lot of jelly and chemical taste enhancer but the amount of real meat inside is near zero.

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by ericfrederich on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @11:00PM (#15129416)
Thanks, I appreciate it. I have probably forwarded the article to 20 or so people since it first came out. Didn't know about this video.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by ddingus on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @09:44PM (#15129104)
That is amazingly well presented.

Agreed. Wow!

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by amygdyl on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @08:24PM (#15128764)
I felt that the presenter is a very rare example of a engineer who felt that his expression and purpose was attractive to his imagined audience.

Without diversion via the questions embedded in the profession and the perception and self perception of the male geek working and academic world, I so rarely see a presenter reacting to a sense of apparent human warmth in the room, and beyond the lens, which even with the most encouraging assistance behind the lens, is genuinely hard to do. Hard enough that I think it is a classic contribution to the stereotypes of inflated ego newsreel presenters, which Hollywood loves to satirise, in my opinion because Hollywood is mocking, to their narrow and insecure view, a subspecies of acting which when done well, can so massively capture the greater audience than ever some most serious actors may manage to capture.

This is a bit more than a little bit of geek knowhow and applied thought, but I think many geeks by virtue of sheer analysis without a obstruction of a ego, could be handily outperforming the supposedly inherent talent they are "meant" to possess. It may be reaching well into "real serious" acting, very easily. I don't pretend to be a judge of that, but if acting abilities are "I know it when I see it", this is excellent acting indeed.

Edit, is not was, first line. A comma for clarity but later on.

Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by sk5t on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @12:22AM (#15129709)
What kind of software generated this comment?
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by soneil on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @06:00AM (#15130892)
Hah, so cynical. No, this is just how audiophiles describe anything. Even their floorboards.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by StavrosK on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @11:51AM (#15133152)
Could it be cargo cult science (language)? By making it sound like an academic paper, it passes for scientific.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by Thoreandan on Thursday August 31, 2017 @10:03AM (#15140349)
I agree, Monty is a good presenter and a good speaker. You can tell he loves his subject matter, and he's eloquent and understandable in sharing it.
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by abpavel on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @10:55AM (#15132602)
Are you the kind of person who considers 24/384 not being good enough? Chasing 384KHz and beyond by buying $1000 USB cable to the DAC?
Re:24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012) by aardshark on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @08:37AM (#15131573)
If you're striving for clarity in this comment, I suggest rewriting it from scratch :)