Re:Maybe today’s Navy is just not very good at driving ships
by jessaustin on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @02:28AM
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Your examples are of bureaucracies destroyed from the outside, by stronger competitors for the same resources. It's quite impossible to curb a bureaucracy from the inside, e.g. through "democratic process". The system will not fix the problems with the system.
Re:Maybe today’s Navy is just not very good at driving ships
by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @08:57AM
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Perhaps, but so don't do that.
If the wasteful bureaucracy will not commit suicide then help some less wasteful one to commit fratricide.
Re:Maybe today’s Navy is just not very good at driving ships
by readams on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @10:27AM
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Just need a competing Navy to conquer the US. Easy as pie.
Re:Maybe today’s Navy is just not very good at driving ships
by jessaustin on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:14PM
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If they have container ships, I wouldn't bet against them...
Re:Maybe today’s Navy is just not very good at driving ships
by meric on Monday August 28, 2017 @10:53PM
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I suppose it's like cows that evolve ever larger horns to compete for mates, then one day a new predator comes in and kills all the cows because their horns are too heavy and they can't run fast enough.
Re:Maybe today’s Navy is just not very good at driving ships
by drewbuschhorn on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @09:41AM
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I think that's slightly different, an "outside of context" problem, as Banks would say. The cows didn't leave enough flexibility to adapt to the unexpected, rather than just being inefficient.
The bureaucracy can fight but it can also lose. Blockbuster Video is no longer a thing that exists because of market pressure. Standard Oil was broken up because of political pressure. There have existed countries that, following the conclusion of a major war, actually disbanded the majority of their military forces, both voluntarily and due to external force. Countries have revolutions where the revolutionaries win and then exile or execute the previous ruling bureaucrats.
In theory the same thing can happen through the democratic process, although this is obviously less common because bureaucracies have a solid understanding of how to subvert electoral opposition.