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Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by laurencei on Saturday August 26, 2017 @07:17PM (#15108003)
The reliance on "major throttle" to determine track position seems strange, especially when you consider unknown variables are possible.

For example, if a marshall flags a yellow, you might pull off the throttle at an unexpected location.

Same as when racing - if another car breaks (for whatever reason, including crashing) - your "inputs" are going to be very different, so this could easily trick the computer into thinking it is not in the right position?

Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by jdietrich on Saturday August 26, 2017 @08:55PM (#15108392)
The electronic systems in an F1 car are heavily regulated, because teams were using ECU tricks to sneakily add traction control. The teams have no choice but to use the limited number of inputs available, because the ECU is a sealed box.

https://www.wired.com/2013/10/red-bull-f1-traction-control/

Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by davidmanescu on Saturday August 26, 2017 @08:04PM (#15108184)
My suggestion would be to place the car by distance travelled since last leaving the home straight. Use steering + throttle inputs to determine when you are on the home straight, make a best guess at where the start/finish line is, then guess where you are based on distance travelled since last passing it.
Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by colordrops on Saturday August 26, 2017 @07:25PM (#15108029)
Yeah, are inertial navigation sensors and GPS units disallowed?
Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by CydeWeys on Saturday August 26, 2017 @08:56PM (#15108400)
It seems like they must be, as that'd be the obvious solution. I wonder what the motivation for that rule is, and how soon it'll change.
Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by sokoloff on Saturday August 26, 2017 @09:03PM (#15108426)
Ages ago, they had GPS/INS systems and active suspension that would pick the car's tires up over known bumps in the road. They also had a few spectacular accidents possibly related to misbehaving tech of that sort and it also represented a disproportionate chance to spend money in an arms race, so F1 banned much of that. I don't see them likely going back on it.
Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by hordeallergy on Sunday August 27, 2017 @07:34AM (#15110299)
What are they using to show the track location graphics? I just assumed they must be using GPS.
Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by CydeWeys on Monday August 28, 2017 @11:26PM (#15121880)
Could be equipment that the teams don't have access to the data from.
Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by hammock on Sunday August 27, 2017 @02:57PM (#15112099)
This was for qualifying though, right? Not a race. So irrelevant
Re:Honda system confused by Alonso taking Pouhon flat by Miredly on Saturday August 26, 2017 @11:12PM (#15108897)
I'm really amazed I had to scroll down this far (past the pedantic supercharger/turbocharger nomenclature arguments) to get to someone making this point.