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Re:Germany, in a First, Shuts Down Left-Wing Extremist Website by gormo2 on Friday August 25, 2017 @04:13PM (#15101797)
All the more reason tech companies should take a stand against any kind of censorship, especially along political lines (be it left/right/whatever)
Re:Germany, in a First, Shuts Down Left-Wing Extremist Website by liquidise on Friday August 25, 2017 @04:24PM (#15101898)
It saddens me how the discussion here is focused on what i will call "fair" censorship, where because X was censored, Y should also be censored to make it even.

My American political bent surely influences this, but the censorship of ideas on the internet leaves a foul taste in my mouth. I would hope that was an opinion shared among the majority of tech folks, but comments lately on HN lead to me believe that is no longer the case.

Re:Germany, in a First, Shuts Down Left-Wing Extremist Website by thomasz on Saturday August 26, 2017 @03:12AM (#15104437)
This has nothing to do with ideas. The site was used as a dumping ground for letters claiming responsibility^1, doxxing of right wing activists, calls for violent protest and so on. The whole thing is a little bit odd because in the past, this kind of prosecution has been targeted way bigger threats: Jihadists, Biker Gangs, paramilitary Nazi groups and stuff like that.

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^1 for what may be best described as "petty terror": Torched cars, smashed windows etc.

Re:Germany, in a First, Shuts Down Left-Wing Extremist Website by alexanderstears on Friday August 25, 2017 @05:39PM (#15102449)
It's come up at my firm. I spoke about it 1:1 with the decision owner and advocated for my employer to be less actively censorious(?). However, I don't think there's a risk free way to express that opinion in a meeting. It doesn't help that one of my cowokers has a big "#RESIST" sticker on their work laptop (nevermind that we agree not to put stickers on our work laptops when they're issued...).
Re:Germany, in a First, Shuts Down Left-Wing Extremist Website by to_bpr on Friday August 25, 2017 @04:35PM (#15101988)
Tech companies are the ones accelerating censorship on political lines, not defending it in any manner.

Tech companies, as a whole, are a social negative. Let's not appeal to them to position themselves as figures of social authoritiey or defender of rights.

Re:Germany, in a First, Shuts Down Left-Wing Extremist Website by lostlogin on Friday August 25, 2017 @04:36PM (#15101995)
What do you think of tech companies doing the censoring themselves? Their service, their rules would be my view. Specifically I'm thinking of Cloudflare versus Daily Stormer.
Re:Germany, in a First, Shuts Down Left-Wing Extremist Website by rpiguy on Friday August 25, 2017 @04:47PM (#15102087)
I don't think there is clear cut answer to that question.

It may depend on the company in question. For Google that supplies 78% of all search results it is probably dangerous to allow them to decide what to favor and what to censor.

For a smaller service provider like Cloudflare, I am not so sure.

It will be interesting to see how it would go down in court.

I am not a lawyer or legal expert by any means, but if the courts decided that business have to serve the public, for example forcing a baker to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding, I can see a court forcing Cloudflare to host content they don't want to host.

Now the interpretation of the law today would not support that because minority opinion holders are not a protected class, but the court extends its power all the time and I could see this leap being made, although it is unlikely.

All in all interesting stuff to ponder.