Please, read about history and geopolitics in Europe. The idea that in stable democracies created by peaceful means (Velvet revolution, Contract Sejm, Round Table Talks), 15 years after these events some dictator with bombs would materialize, were it not for EU, is simply ridiculous.
And using Ukraine as an example of what it would be like without having EU peacekeeping in other countries is even more grotesque. The events in Ukraine unfolded in the way they did due to the political games between West and Russia, including foreign-supported politicians from both sides, and gas transit extortion. EU was very involved in all of that.
Also, I'm sure Alan Kurdi had a terrible, terrible "track record".
you saying all these stabbings, shootings, driving of vehicles into the crowd, gang rapes etc etc are made up by the press?
speaking of Sacco and Vanzetti - the government didn't do it's job and allowed violent anarchists into the country. so yes, shouldn't have let them in.
A lot of them are, especially these days when you can have nameless blogs pushing crap into facebook. Statistics are bent or misread, tales exaggerated, and then the correction is printed two weeks later on page 31 on a single line in size 7. The actual statistical risk of immigrants committing crimes is much lower than average - don't take it from me, ask people who study this stuff: https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-sa...
Of course actual terror attacks are another story, but those would likely happen anyway - you only need a tourist visa to do anything from 9/11 hijacks to renting a van.
And going back to Sacco and Vanzetti, if you think the contribution the Italian-American community made to the US over 150 years are not worth an (alleged) murder or two, I honestly think the only way of life that would satisfy you is closer to an Amish lifestyle than anything vaguely modern.
Like this right here as an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaul...
or this: https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2017/08/12/18-in-muslim-g...
or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...
etc etc ad nauseum.
>>if you think the contribution the Italian-American community made to the US over 150 years are not worth an (alleged) murder or two...
did I say "Italians" or "violent anarchists"?
>> I honestly think the only way of life that would satisfy you is closer to an Amish lifestyle than anything vaguely modern.
apparently all these "ungrateful eastern europeans" disagree :) don't know why though... I mean all this cultural enrichment at the small expense of getting raped by the thousands...
Specifically, the problems with child grooming in England are long-standing, Asians have mostly just replaced the locals (see all the stuff about Jimmy Savile, boarding schools etc). And Cologne is as much a failure of policing as a terrible event that has never happened before in Europe and will likely never happen again - so it's hardly exemplary.
And yeah, eastern europeans have a problem with racism and refuse to admit it. Which is why they will likely be left behind at some point.
as I'm sure you're aware there's no shortage of these for me to quote. literally as we speak: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/27/buckingham-p...
>> Asians
:)))
>> Cologne is as much a failure of policing as a terrible event that has never happened before in Europe
...before they let these ppl in that is
>> eastern europeans have a problem with racism and refuse to admit it
proof? maybe define 'racism' and go from there.
>> they will likely be left behind...
EU- wise - who knows. On a global scale though remains to be seen who is going to be "left behind". Tourism-wise Budapest and Prague already look much more attractive than Paris or some places in Germany.
Things like this are pretty serious and are a pretty good indication of whats to come - http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/729782/Germany-no-go-pol... Wouldn't be surprised to see US re-align more towards Central/Eastern Europe in terms of economic and military alliances going forward.
No, but they did it against the interests of their existing Western workers; and such workers in many cases accepted that as a price to pay for long-term peace and prosperity on the continent. Would I prefer a world where Western workers are better off but we still have a Cold War with bombs going off here and there, the constant threat of revolutions or dictatorships and so on? No, of course not. In this sense, the Ukrainian experience is a good example of what could have been for a lot of countries without the EU.
> protecting the interests of it's citizens. isn't that what the state is supposed to be doing
There are many ways of protecting the interests of its citizens; one of them is helping people in need in other countries, in order to foster peace and prosperity in the long run. The US turning a blind eye towards the plight of Jewish refugees in the 1930s would have "protected" the interest of its citizens already in the US, but it would have been bad in the long run. The same for Italians moving there around the same time. Helping poor nations getting better, by accepting migrants (who will send back a lot of the money they earn, and reduce demographic pressure), is a good move in the long run, or even in the short run in most cases (since they pay for retirement of older EU citizens, which would otherwise be unsustainable in most cases because of declining demographics).
> irrational (and somewhat suicidal manner)
Some things look irrational in the short term but eventually make sense. A lot of our current problems are due to humanity completely losing sight of anything that is not the next fiscal quarter.