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Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by SeeDave on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @09:04AM (#15081163)
>The challenge of a self driving car is to get it to drive by itself, not to try to make it look good and to solve a whole pile of engineering problems that have had everybody in engineering looking at them since as long as we have the profession.

This is why I believe that comma.ai was so visionary, say whatever you want about George Hotz's personality. He truly _gets it_ that self-driving is the critical part, not the car.

Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by pedroaraujo on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @09:18AM (#15081263)
"Visionary"? Hardly. His self driving technology was basically a big giant hack. He is a good hacker but calling him "visionary" is a bit of a stretch.
Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by SeeDave on Friday August 25, 2017 @12:09AM (#15096052)
From my perspective, the vision was in truly understanding that the value-add is centered around "self-driving" more so than "cars."
Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by nojvek on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:19AM (#15082164)
A giant hack that works and already out on the streets.

I think commaai has a very bright future.

Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by jacquesm on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @12:55PM (#15083091)
Supernova's have a bright future too. But a very short one.

Comma one has been canceled and the new offering is more along the lines of a kit for DIY car hackers than for serious deployment and at a guess if you would be involved in an accident while deploying one of these kits your insurance would be void.

Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by skgoa on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:46AM (#15082432)
comma was a scam. The car Hotz used for his "demonstration" already comes with the functionality he "demonstrated" from the factory. He just added wires and a joystick to his dashboard.
Re:Apple Scales Back Its Ambitions for a Self-Driving Car by SeeDave on Friday August 25, 2017 @12:08AM (#15096047)
Out of curiosity... could you let me know how you came to this conclusion?