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Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by emeijer on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @08:53AM (#15071848)
"The bacteria operate at an efficiency of more than 80 percent"

Really? If this technology is able to convert energy from sunlight + co2 into carbon based fuels at 80% efficiency, that's quite astounding. Something like that could solve the whole energy storage problem we have with solar and wind energy. Almost sounds too good to be true.

Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by digi_owl on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @09:20AM (#15072066)
The elephant, as always, is "will it scale?"...
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by tomjen3 on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @11:14AM (#15073181)
It is bacteria. Those usually have no issue scaling.
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by agumonkey on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @10:40AM (#15072828)
btw, is there a mindset about centralization efficiency (as in large scale manufacturing) vs small scall distributed ?

If everybody bred these as they see fit, the scale issues might not appear. But I'm surely missing something.

Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by visarga on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @02:21PM (#15075078)
Elephants don't scale up. Sorry about that.
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by bluGill on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @10:59AM (#15073045)
There is more than enough sun falling on the ground in deserts to supply all the energy humans use at ridiculously small conversion efficiencies. It doesn't do us any good because we don't know how to capture that.
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by SCHiM on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @12:18PM (#15073866)
No the problem there is actually transporting that. It's no use to build a solar farm there and then stretch a long copper powerline back to wherever it is needed because of the losses involved.
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by twic on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @01:19PM (#15074470)
"The studies concluded that the extremely high solar radiation in the deserts of North Africa and the Middle East outweighs the 10–15% transmission losses between the desert regions and Europe. This means that solar thermal power plants in the desert regions are more economical than the same kinds of plants in southern Europe."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertec

Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by bluGill on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @12:24PM (#15073947)
I was including transportation issues in capturing. There is also the storage problem.
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by Cerium on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @12:47PM (#15074143)
No storage problem if you build a global superconductor power grid.
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by knicholes on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @06:24PM (#15076891)
Of course that requires superconductors that are reasonably inexpensive and relatively robust and maintainable!
Re:Cyborg bacteria outperform plants when turning sunlight i... by sp332 on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @10:55AM (#15072996)
I think it's referring to how efficiently it uses the energy after it is collected by the solar panel. So the collection itself might be <20% efficient, but the synthesis of new materials can be very efficient after that.