Re:An 80s Girl Talks About Computers: A Reminiscence
by devmunchies on Thursday August 17, 2017 @12:48PM
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> Though the term is "nerd", now, and it's become possibly respectable
I don't think this is true. I think that there are "nerdy" things that have become trendy (like thick framed glasses, playing retro video games and music, or being smart), but its still not cool to be a true nerd. (or maybe "nerd" is being redefined)
See this Portlandia sketch that explains my point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Jbz4c_WKA
Re:An 80s Girl Talks About Computers: A Reminiscence
by Jtsummers on Thursday August 17, 2017 @01:46PM
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Me last night: So I've been working through some math books for fun...
People I was with: Wait, go back. You're doing math for fun?
All claiming to be nerds, all hanging out at a local barcade (trivia night, hobby of mine). Nerd culture is cool, being a nerd is not. They do appreciate that I can answer about 80% of the trivia questions myself, though.
Re:An 80s Girl Talks About Computers: A Reminiscence
by rjsw on Thursday August 17, 2017 @12:44PM
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I think that the term "Anorak" came from the idea that before home computers were available the boy would probably have been a trainspotter. Looking at trains is done outside so they would all wear waterproof coats.
Re:An 80s Girl Talks About Computers: A Reminiscence
by nsxwolf on Thursday August 17, 2017 @01:42PM
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In my memory, by 1995 in high school computers were still a weird nerd subculture thing. There were a few non-nerds who had discovered PC games like DOOM, and that created interesting socialization opportunities for nerds.
No girls though. Just the few you met out in the BBS scene.
Re:An 80s Girl Talks About Computers: A Reminiscence
by ghaff on Thursday August 17, 2017 @05:00PM
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Funny you mention the BBS scene. There was a period (probably late 80s) when I was pretty involved with a large local commercial BBS. And we did a bit of socializing together. I imagine it skewed male but my recollection is that it wasn't overwhelmingly male.
Re:An 80s Girl Talks About Computers: A Reminiscence
by nsxwolf on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:27PM
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I wonder if it being a commercial BBS had something to do with the demographics?
The underground/hacker/warez boards were pretty male.
Re:An 80s Girl Talks About Computers: A Reminiscence
by ghaff on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:35PM
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Maybe. This was a subscription local BBS as opposed to a commercial service like CIS. But the main board wasn't really an underground/hacker/warez demographic. As I recall it was a pretty civilized atmosphere. Also was definitely post-teenager demographic.
My memory of that time in the UK was that being "into" computers marked you as a greasy-haired "Anorak" (maybe that translates to "Dirty Mac", in American. I suppose the slur is based on stereotyping computer enthusiasts who would often peruse computer magazines at the newsagent, rather like some other "enthusiasts" who might be browsing other, usually graphic, magazines, possibly wearing a "Mac").
Though the term is "Nerd", now, and it's become possibly respectable, in those times, especially in high school, it really wasn't cool at at all, and seemed to attract more derision that being into StartTrek or even D&D.
I don't think the majority of girls wanted to be seen dead in such circles, though not because of "bro" culture, far from it. girls were more than welcome.
Possibly things have changed now, I don't know, but I'll note also that back then there didn't seem to be much discussion of gender ratios in either industry or in education.
I don't know if that's because of heightened general awareness now, or simply that anything IT has become even more lucrative, and (probably as a result) much cooler. What is the gender ratio in coal mining?