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Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by dmitrygr on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:00PM (#15030768)
Please explain how you'll mutate a single bit of output given only input and no knowledge of key
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by bsder on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @08:28PM (#15032633)
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by snakeanus on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:12PM (#15030908)
If you use a mode like CTR you just flip the corresponding ciphertext bit. As for CBC there are padding-oracle attacks.
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by tedunangst on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:16PM (#15030962)
Do SSDs use CTR mode? How does one perform a padding oracle against an SSD? I feel like we're pretty far away from the relevant context, which is users corrupting data on an SSD.
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by heheocoenev on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @05:36PM (#15031587)
XTS mode for block storage. Can't be CBC or CTR, where would you Store the IV or counter/nonce?
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by Scaevolus on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @05:44PM (#15031635)
You could store it in the block metadata, which SSD flash translation layers already use for wear-leveling purposes.
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by tedunangst on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @06:17PM (#15031843)
This sounds more like random speculation than informed commentary.
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by rlanday on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @06:16PM (#15031836)
Does the SSD let you read the raw ciphertext to perform that attack? Or does it only expose the decrypted data?
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by dmitrygr on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @08:07PM (#15032508)
There is no documented way to read cyphertext. I am SURE some manufacturer specific commands exist. But they will likely be undocumented, model-specific, and may be locked away behind a manufacturer key
Re:Rowhammer-like attack on SSDs can provide root privileges... by lightedman on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @10:54PM (#15033433)
"Please explain how you'll mutate a single bit of output given only input"

Same way Rowhammer works. Exploiting a physical vulnerability gives zero damns about encryption. Now whether you get VALID or USABLE data from the attack is an entirely different story.