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Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by pjmlp on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @12:13PM (#15028656)
Replacing the contents of my previous post regarding VS 15.3 support of F#.

"For long time .NET developers, a common question is "when will Visual Studio support F# .NET Core projects". We’re working hard to get this functionality ready, but unfortunately, we’re not quite happy enough with the quality in the 15.3 update to announce that it’s fully supported. While Visual Studio 2017 version 15.3 is able to open the new F# .NET Core projects, build, and debug them, IntelliSense does not yet work correctly"

From

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2017/08/14/f-and-net...

Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by phillipcarter on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @12:17PM (#15028689)
I'm sorry, but what you're saying is factually incorrect. Can you please update your comment so as not to spread misinformation?
Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by pjmlp on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @12:25PM (#15028773)
Updated with the blog quote.
Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by phillipcarter on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @12:47PM (#15028981)
This is for the .NET Core tooling support part of F#, and as we've stated in the blog post, we prioritized the quality of cross-platform usage here. You're free to disagree with this prioritization, but please don't craft a narrative about the relationship between F# and Microsoft that can mislead people as you did before.
Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by pjmlp on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @12:54PM (#15029038)
If the issues faced by your team were related to C# I assume management would have taken other path.

And this is the reason why none of our customers wants to even discuss integrating F# into C# projects.

Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by phillipcarter on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @01:03PM (#15029124)
Perhaps it's worth taking a different viewpoint. With VS 2017, no single release updates every part of the product to the latest things. For example, UWP does not support .NET Standard 2.0 yet. That did not put the VS 2017 15.3 release on hold. Similarly, although F# fully supports .NET Core and .NET Standard 2.0 with this release, the tooling quality wasn't high enough for us to declare the associated tooling support in VS as fully supported. That also did not put the VS 2017 15.3 release on hold. This because we're already three updates into Visual Studio, and it's only been 6 months since its release. Visual Studio updates faster and teams can release things easier and more rapidly without needing to wait for everything else. This is a really good thing.
Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by pjmlp on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @03:43PM (#15030575)
Point taken, but apparently Microsoft employees keep forgeting F# is part of .NET, or isn't EditorConfig at all relevant for F#?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/editorconf...

Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by twodave on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @02:56PM (#15030121)
This, and also VS2017 did in fact ship C# without some things (for instance, full support for value tuples).
Re:The Problem with F# Evangelism by TensorMetric on Thursday August 17, 2017 @10:44AM (#15037199)
This is minor compared to all the major things VS isn't shipping for many years in a row now.