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Re:Selection bias is the most powerful force in education by throwaway613834 on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @05:57PM (#15023068)
> Funny thing, though. We've done a bunch of studies on this and it doesn't actually help.

> This has been shown time and time again.

One would think a link to at least one study would be appropriate here?

Re:Selection bias is the most powerful force in education by simonh on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @06:06PM (#15023142)
The original article already provided evidence, based on analysis of the performance of similar students who do and do not get into a selective school. As it says...

"Except that attending those high schools simply doesn’t matter in terms of conventional educational outcomes. When you look at the edge cases – when you restrict your analysis to those students who are among the last let into such schools and those who are among the last left out – you find no statistically meaningful differences between them."

So unless you're calling out the original article, how about offering counter-evidence?

Re:Selection bias is the most powerful force in education by btilly on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @04:59AM (#15025976)
Here you go: http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/CullenJacobLev...

The upshot, attempting to get into a better school is correlated with doing better. Actually getting to go to the school of your choice is not.

Re:Selection bias is the most powerful force in education by sololipsist on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @01:27PM (#15029352)
Eh, not really. I've learned over the years to avoid providing sources because more often than not the person won't believe you either way and will only use the source as a tangible target for disingenuous attack through motivated misinterpretation. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivated_reasoning)

I typically provide sources in response to replies like: "That's interesting, but I can't really find anything on the matter; can you point me to something?" But if there is no indication that the person actually tried to find corroboration independently I take it as a sign that he is not actually interested in corroboration. I'm sure this is inaccurate sometimes, but it's the best approximation I can come up with.