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Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by spodek on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @04:05PM (#15021845)
The quote you mentioned results from the process he criticized, not his criticizing it.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by joshuamorton on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @04:28PM (#15022116)
This is only true if the process he criticized is actually real.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by turtleofdeath on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @07:33PM (#15023723)
What reasoning does Damore have to lie?
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by joshuamorton on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @07:45PM (#15023795)
You say lie. I say "be uninformed".
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Berobero on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @04:38PM (#15022231)
This is not the case, strictly speaking. It instead results from people perceiving there to be a lower bar for diversity hires; whether or not it is rational to describe things in that manner based on empirical data or what not is ultimately inconsequential. In that context, it is entirely possible for a poorly formulated memo to cause this type of damage, and likewise entirely possible for this perception to be perpetuated if institutions like Google do not properly back up its practices with compelling arguments to people who might otherwise have doubts.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by sheepmullet on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @04:52PM (#15022397)
> In that context, it is entirely possible for a poorly formulated memo to cause this type of damage

It's also possible, and more likely, for an overreaction to a memo to cause this kind of damage.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Berobero on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @05:03PM (#15022540)
Surely "overreaction" is a matter of perception as well.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by sheepmullet on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @05:10PM (#15022620)
My point still stands if you replace overreaction with reaction.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: Thoughts on the Google Memo by Berobero on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @05:17PM (#15022702)
I'm confused as to what your point was, then. It reads as though you're attempting to ascribe responsibility to organic social processes.