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Re:Richard Stallman Explains [video] by dijit on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:01AM (#14977426)
Free Software has not "won", in any sense of the imagination.

I am sitting in an office of 500+ Windows machines compared to 2 FreeBSD (and no Linux) machines.

I have to use Outlook otherwise I can't book meetings.

I must use Slack otherwise I can't communicate with my colleagues. (Or, alternatively, Skype For Business, but same issue)

"Free Software" is _not_ winning anywhere that isn't servers. (and they have fierce competition there too).

Re:Richard Stallman Explains [video] by aaronbrethorst on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:06AM (#14977452)
The most-used operating system in the world has a Linux kernel. But, it might not be in front of you...except when you're checking email, waiting in line, playing Angry Birds, making a photograph, or checking up on Facebook.
Re:Richard Stallman Explains [video] by oblio on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:12AM (#14977491)
> except when you're checking email, waiting in line, playing Angry Birds, making a photograph, or checking up on Facebook.

You've just proved his point more than you ever wanted.

> checking email

On the (probably) proprietary Mail or Gmail app.

> waiting in line

On the (probably) proprietary app for whichever thing you're staying in line for.

> playing Angry Birds

...

> making a photograph

...

> or checking up on Facebook

...!

Who care if the kernel, heavily modified and buried 100 layers deep is Open Source if all the apps users actually use are proprietary?

Re:Richard Stallman Explains [video] by qplex on Thursday August 10, 2017 @06:45AM (#14978347)
>Who care if the kernel, heavily modified and buried 100 layers deep is Open Source if all the apps users actually use are proprietary?

I guess by this definition any open sourced library that an "end user app" uses doesn't count either.

Re:Richard Stallman Explains [video] by aaronbrethorst on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:33AM (#14977616)
Given your sense of fatalism about this, I assume you don’t spend your free time building OSS apps for mobile platforms?
Re:Richard Stallman Explains [video] by oblio on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:41AM (#14977682)
I'm not a fatalist, I'm just pointing out a fact. FOSS is far from winning.

FOSS has barely "won" the lower levels of the stack and the highly technical niches. But the more you move towards user-facing applications, the more proprietary things become.

Re:Richard Stallman Explains [video] by aaronbrethorst on Friday August 11, 2017 @01:47AM (#14986881)
If you genuinely care about reversing this, then I recommend spending more of your free time building open source apps meant for end user consumption.