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Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by bendmorris on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:52AM (#14976514)
>I believe for example if it wasn’t for biases and unequal opportunities, then the higher ranks in science and politics would be dominated by women. Hence, aiming at a 50-50 representation gives men an unfair advantage.

This makes zero sense considering the reality that women are underrepresented. "Aiming at 50-50 representation" could at best lift the disadvantaged group closer to 50% representation. It could in no way cause an underrepresented group to dominate a field.

Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by relics443 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @02:35AM (#14977026)
What if, hypothetically (I wouldn't want to get fired), the most qualified split was 55% male - 45% female. Wouldn't aiming for 50-50 be discriminatory towards males?

Since we have no way of knowing what the actual qualified split is, aiming at anything is discriminatory towards everyone.

Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by jorgemf on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:59AM (#14976556)
She means that aiming to 50-50 doesn't represent the skills set. As women are more skilled for that job they should have more representation (based on the biological theory). If it is a 50-50 you are promoting men in the positions when you shouldn't. (the disadvantaged group here are the men)
Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by bendmorris on Thursday August 10, 2017 @01:07AM (#14976601)
You're missing my point. If women would naturally have more representation and were disadvantaged by this policy, and the policy was 100% effective (unheard of), their representation would drop from >50% to 50% - it wouldn't somehow switch to women being significantly underrepresented. This assertion doesn't make sense based on the actual situation we have today.
Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by jorgemf on Thursday August 10, 2017 @01:14AM (#14976642)
I don't know if I understand you. We have the situation we have today because "biases and unequal opportunities".
Re:Outraged about the Google diversity memo? by michaelchisari on Thursday August 10, 2017 @02:12AM (#14976926)
I think the person you're responding to is assuming that we are already at a decently fair equilibrium, and that diversity and other concepts and goals are disrupting that equilibrium. I think the biggest failure of communication around these issues is that a lot of people arguing against these programs are coming at it from the just world hypothesis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis