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Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by Clubber on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:11AM (#14969003)
I believe it's illegal in the US to fire someone for their political leanings, but not if you say something outrageous like women aren't built for tech jobs (or whatever he said).

That being said, it's never a good idea to get on a soapbox about politics at work (or anywhere really). It doesn't make a difference in your listeners opinions and only gets people with opposing views aggravated. Best to just think about the issues and vote come election.

Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by dionidium on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:19AM (#14969115)
"That being said, it's never a good idea to get on a soapbox about politics at work (or anywhere really)."

The difference, presumably, is that people inside Google are already talking about all kinds of other political issues on internal message boards. They want to believe they're different, that they're in a new kind of enlightened environment where politics can be discussed by reasonable people without danger.

But this is ridiculous. It's easy to talk about things for which there's wide agreement. You don't even notice those things as politics. It's only politics when you disagree.

I don't suppose the human beings at Google are any better at talking about this stuff than any other human beings. If they want their workplace policies to reflect that, then fine! But there are a whole bunch of implicitly accepted leftist positions that they shouldn't be talking about, either. That's the hard part, because, again, they don't even notice those positions as politics.

Here are some Google executives saying exactly this:

https://youtu.be/wa8nc27Jb8E

Just as Uber and AirBnb are slowly revealing why we had hotel and taxi regulations in the first place, this Google case shows why our grandparents established those old-fashioned ideas about politics in the workplace.

Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by 1_2__4 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:28AM (#14969226)
You are 100% correct. Politics is shouted to the rafters in every forum inside Google, but with a voice that starts out from the extreme left and migrates further leftward from there. I can completely understand why conservatives - or even moderates - feel unwelcome there. It's really bad.
Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by ForRealsies on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:32AM (#14969298)
Wasn't Google asking for input as to why there weren't more women interested in their industry?
Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by Clubber on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @02:13PM (#14972029)
I guess they got their answer. :)
Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by boobsbr on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:13AM (#14969030)
> I believe it's illegal in the US to fire someone for their political leanings, but not if you say something outrageous like women aren't built for tech jobs (or whatever he said).

It's easy to circumvent the legal issue, just have a vague code of conduct and claim the employee broke said code of conduct.

Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by ForRealsies on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:24AM (#14969171)
"You really need to read it again. He never brings of the topic of suitability. His section about biological differences only discusses why genders tend to choose certain professions."
Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by Chris2048 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:42AM (#14969448)
Quotes?
Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by Clubber on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:14AM (#14969057)
I agree, or just attribute it to not having a "cultural fit."
Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by anapaix on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:45AM (#14969495)
he complained to the labor board about this issue before he wrote the memo, and apparently it is illegal in California to fire someone for complaining about their work conditions.

certainly not a slam dunk case, but he may have some reasonable basis for a case.

Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by LyndsySimon on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:23AM (#14969162)
> I believe it's illegal in the US to fire someone for their political leanings

In most circumstances it's perfectly legal to do so. Exceptions include states with specific laws that protect political affiliation (which includes California) and federal government employees.

Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by vnchr on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:32AM (#14969303)
Someone asked in another HN thread. Federal employees are protected, and some states protect political affiliation including California: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14953325
Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by Chris2048 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:40AM (#14969430)
> (or whatever he said)

Really? Leave it up to the media to decide what he was fired for afterwards?

> it's never a good idea to get on a soapbox about politics at work

Many companies actively encourage this, when it comes to left-leaning politics.

Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by Clubber on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:45AM (#14969492)
>Really? Leave it up to the media to decide what he was fired for afterwards?

I honestly don't care. Anyone who sends a company wide memo is asking for trouble. The news throws so much stuff that you are expected to get "outraged" over. It's not healthy to absorb it all.

Looks like we might go nuclear with North Korea real soon, if that happens, none of this will matter.

Re:The Culture Wars Have Come to Silicon Valley by Chris2048 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:56AM (#14969631)
> Anyone who sends a company wide memo

He didn't.