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Re:Why Women Leave Engineering (2011) [pdf] by _Codemonkeyism on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @01:03AM (#14954541)
We wanted to found a collective of programmers and admins in the 90s, because we all felt cheated by companies for money and didn't like company politics. From around 50 people it slimmed down over a year to 3 during discussions and legal work - and the 3 of us then founded a startup because it showed others were not really interested in a collective idea but 9-5 jobs that brought in consistent money.

I don't know what to take away from that. My impression was they would like to work for a collective but not found one perhaps.

I was always amazed by

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation

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Re:Why Women Leave Engineering (2011) [pdf] by scottLobster on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @01:38AM (#14954748)
Sounds like a common case of loving the idea of something but not having the will to carry it out. That's most of humanity in my experience. People, even experienced tech professionals are far more likely to bitch about a problem vs actually taking steps to solve it.

It's like people who will bitch about how lousy customer service is at company X, but if company X raised the prices on their products by $1-2 to hire full time customer support staff, those same people would take their business elsewhere. So really they don't want better customer support, they just want the genie to grant wishes.

3 out of 50 people actually serious about solving a given problem fits pretty well with my life experience. :P

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Re:Why Women Leave Engineering (2011) [pdf] by manigandham on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @04:44AM (#14955803)
> 3 out of 50 people actually serious about solving a given problem

That seems high.

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