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Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by fireflash38 on Monday August 07, 2017 @01:36PM (#14949363)
Sure is! People can be offended all they want. Where things get really iffy is when they want 'justice'. It often means that they try to get that person fired or lambasted in front of their peers. I don't see how that's at all constructive, let alone 'justice'.

At the very least, it leads to even more divisiveness, instead of rational discussion.

As a thought experiment: have you ever seen someone change their mind or worldview as a result of being insulted & fired?

Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by navait on Monday August 07, 2017 @01:44PM (#14949453)
My manager threatened one of my co-workers with termination if they didn't take a more proactive approach towards making the code he wrote more robust. He took out specific examples of shit code he wrote, and had us criticize it and the mindset that created it. It changed how he programmed for the better and his outlook towards his job.
Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by stagbeetle on Monday August 07, 2017 @01:58PM (#14949598)
The first step is to want to help.

Too many, all across the spectrum, have his mindset that people that do or think things they don't like should be destroyed and locked away from "civilized society." A common rebuttal I see from these sorts, after being questioned why they don't take it upon themselves to sit down and understand one another (I will concede there is a very very very small minority that this shouldn't be done with, but you're unlikely to ever interact with them), is that it's not their duty to help these people.

Unfortunately, this makes the issue worse when you start exiling certain groups and radicalized with hate.

Here's an interesting article (isolated incident) where those with extreme views were shown compassion and understanding, and ultimately disavowed their ideas:

Black Man Gets KKK Members To Disavow By Befriending Them: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-man-daryl-davis-be...

Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by fireflash38 on Monday August 07, 2017 @02:01PM (#14949632)
I wouldn't consider that a change in worldview, which tend to be far more deeply ingrained.
Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by dragonwriter on Monday August 07, 2017 @01:50PM (#14949518)
> As a thought experiment: have you ever seen someone change their mind or worldview as a result of being insulted & fired?

I have see people limited in their ability to cause further harm by being fired; not all consequences are directed at reformation if he offender.

Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by untog on Monday August 07, 2017 @01:46PM (#14949481)
> As a thought experiment: have you ever seen someone change their mind or worldview as a result of being insulted & fired?

...but that's not why someone in this position would be fired. It would be because their publicly stated opinions about what people are and are not capable of makes their co-workers deeply uncomfortable.

We can debate endlessly (we already have, I'm sure we will again) whether firing is the right or wrong choice, but let's argue about it for the right reasons.

Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by JoshTriplett on Monday August 07, 2017 @01:47PM (#14949493)
> As a thought experiment: have you ever seen someone change their mind or worldview as a result of being insulted & fired?

It's fundamentally not about them; it's about their co-workers. Making it about them is the wrong approach.

Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by fireflash38 on Monday August 07, 2017 @02:00PM (#14949627)
I personally wouldn't want to work with people who can't handle the slightest adversity.
Re:On managing outrage in Silicon Valley by s73ver on Monday August 07, 2017 @01:46PM (#14949478)
As a thought experiment: have you ever seen a team work well together when one of the members has publically said that half of their team doesn't deserve to be there and shouldn't have been hired in the first place?