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Re:Cheap Beijing Flights With a Dangerous Catch by rmc on Sunday August 06, 2017 @06:18AM (#14940715)
> Caveat emptor

The hell with that, the company should be shut down. Some poor soul will think it's a sweet deal. They're putting people at risk of the death penalty without telling them and implying everyone is A-OK.

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Re:Cheap Beijing Flights With a Dangerous Catch by vertex-four on Sunday August 06, 2017 @07:32AM (#14940890)
AirMule are informing the second party (the "mule") that there is no risk. Exactly how is intentionally lying to your customers to the point that you can get them killed ethical? And how exactly is it the fault of the person you've intentionally lied to that they believed your lie?

The ethical thing to say, in big, bold writing, is "we check as thoroughly as possible, but we can't be absolutely certain there's nothing illegal in the bag, and you're responsible to the authorities - to the extent of a potential death sentence - if that happens". In fact, this is hidden away all the way at the bottom of the terms and conditions! Of course, if they did that then they wouldn't have any customers.

You can be ethical in the presence of other unethical actors - that the Government may or may not be unethical does not change whether your activities are ethical.

Re:Cheap Beijing Flights With a Dangerous Catch by rmc on Sunday August 06, 2017 @08:25AM (#14941021)
> AirMule are informing the second party (the "mule") that there is no risk. Exactly how is intentionally lying to your customers to the point that you can get them killed ethical?

disruption!

Re:Cheap Beijing Flights With a Dangerous Catch by Fnoord on Sunday August 06, 2017 @11:10AM (#14941594)
> In fact, this is hidden away all the way at the bottom of the terms and conditions!

Or not bottom but slightly above the bottom, since people may skim through and read first and last part only as a matter of verification.

> Exactly how is intentionally lying to your customers to the point that you can get them killed ethical?

I suppose its a survival of the fittest, to get rid of those humans ignorant or poor enough to deal with this.

Would it pass the Darwin Awards though?

And don't make the mistake that this business practice goes right for an X amount of times. A scammer on eBay can have hundreds of positive feedback before his exit strategy.

As for the "These guys totally have you covered." in the original article, I wouldn't want to do business with someone who's manner of first impression is to advertises themselves as a hardcore gamer, a dancer (with that stale face), and a beer drinker. Doesn't give me confidence at all!

Re:Cheap Beijing Flights With a Dangerous Catch by nolok on Sunday August 06, 2017 @07:18AM (#14940857)
I disagree with pretty much your entire message but I'm surprised so I ask: how is it in any way the fault of the governments agents ?!? They don't even have anything to do with that Airmul scam.
Re:Cheap Beijing Flights With a Dangerous Catch by sneak on Monday August 07, 2017 @07:31AM (#14946703)
They are the ones perpetrating the actual violence by their own hands. I would have thought that obvious.