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Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by avelis on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:14PM (#14920862)
Came here to recommend that.

Instead, use open source hardware. Use pen and paper!

:-)

Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by zanny on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:47PM (#14921180)
We could also use open source hardware that isn't pen and paper. We just need the open source part.
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by Zash on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:56PM (#14921307)
What open source hardware would that be, and how can everyone eligible to vote be able to understand how it works and be able to observe that it really does work?
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by amenghra on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:47PM (#14921885)
Every single person doesn't understand all the security aspects of today's paper & pen ballots, how they are secured before and after the day of voting, how they are transported from one location to another, how mail-in ballots get handled, etc.

There's no reason to require something that everyone can understand when talking about a different voting system.

IMHO, we should aim to build something (whether using physical machines or using cryptography/mathematical properties) that the various parties in a government can audit and recognize as secure and that leads to a larger portion of the population voting or a cheaper election process.

Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Thursday August 03, 2017 @03:35PM (#14923001)
Whether people do understand something is very different from whether people can understand something.

While many people maybe aren't aware of the security mechanisms of a pen and paper election, essentially everyone can actually understand them if they feel the need to, and that is extremely important. You cannot resolve widespread distrust by putting a bunch of mathematicians on TV who tell the population that everything is fine.

Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by jfnixon on Saturday August 05, 2017 @08:41PM (#14938976)
We already have something that can be made secure, anonymous, and auditable, and yet is easy to understand and relatively inexpensive. It is pencil and paper ballots, with multiple interested parties observing the entire process.
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by simias on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:52PM (#14921249)
And a way to simply audit them. It's a bit difficult to make a fake pen and paper that would trick me into voting for the wrong person (especially at scale).
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by jdavis703 on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:50PM (#14921911)
Well then you have issues like "hanging chads," [0] that's why e-voting became big in the US.

0: https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~goguen/courses/275f00/abc-chads.htm...

Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by mnem on Thursday August 03, 2017 @02:16PM (#14922190)
Pen and paper doesn't suffer from hanging chads, surely? That's only if you use paper + hole punch for primitive automated counting?
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by rurban on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:54PM (#14921275)
Nope, that would not work. Paper and pen are the best secure methods. Everything digital is insecure.
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by benchaney on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:51PM (#14921233)
Verifying hardware more complicated than a pen and paper is prohibitively difficult.
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by thanhquanky on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:10PM (#14921461)
remember the butterfly ballot?
Re:To Protect Voting, Use Open-Source Software by thrownblown on Thursday August 03, 2017 @01:19PM (#14921558)
never forget the hanging chad!