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Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by willvarfar on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:43AM (#14901128)
Are there any technical solutions solving the nuclear waste storage problem yet?

Before following the HN crowd and becoming pro-nuclear-power, I'd like to understand what problems it is leaving to our children and their children and so on.

Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by specialist on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:26AM (#14901685)
I have almost zero problems with nuclear power.

I have almost zero confidence in the humans involved. Operations, waste disposal, financials, turf wars, transparency, accountability, whatever.

Humans ruin everything. Even in my own (very low stakes) work as a programmer, the problem is rarely the tech, its the humans.

Whenever someone floats an idea, I wonder "What's the worst that could go wrong?" Solar panels becomes landfill and the silicon fabs become superfund sites. vs Chernobyl, Fukushima, Hanford Nuclear Reservation, proliferation, dirty bombs, etc.

Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by briffle on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:54AM (#14901236)
Yes, reprocessing fuel has been around since the 70's.. its just not 'politically feasible' to reverse the ban President Carter put on it in the US.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by ckozlowski on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:27AM (#14901714)
Correct. The problem is that the fuel cycle involves stages where you have large amounts of plutonium sitting around for long periods of time.

Ironically enough, it's also mastery of that fuel cycle that enables the neutralization of weapons-grade material. France has mastered this cycle, and they're one of a few nations who are capable of reprocessing nuclear weapon primaries.

Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by pmyteh on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @04:17PM (#14904890)
We (Britain) built the THORP plant to reprocess into mixed oxide fuel. It was billions over budget, seemingly difficult to operate without causing a stream of minor nuclear accidents, and was never commercially successful. We closed it. Carter-era politics is the least of the problems...
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by adrianN on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:27AM (#14901711)
Also, breeder reactors.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by pycal on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:58AM (#14901293)
Yeah, you can increase the safety of handling nuclear waste material, decrease its volume, increase its long term stability, and lower its surface mobility by turning it in to a glass-like material http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022311513...
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by GeneralMayhem on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:58AM (#14901286)
Bury it in a mountain and never look at it again. The amount of waste produced, even if we powered all of the United States with it, is not that big.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by exabrial on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @12:40PM (#14902623)
Recycle it in a breeder reactor is my favorite option. We would only really need one of them to process the entire nation' waste.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by mikeash on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:52AM (#14901213)
Yes, put it in sturdy canisters and store it somewhere with a nice fence and some guards.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by beat on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @12:42PM (#14902638)
And who will be paying for the guards in the year 8017? How will the fence be doing?

Will anyone still be speaking English to read the signs?

Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by mikeash on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @12:50PM (#14902741)
There's lots of highly dangerous non-nuclear waste which stays dangerous forever, and we don't worry about this.

The best answer to those questions is to do our best to ensure that civilization doesn't collapse in the first place.

Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by beat on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @01:10PM (#14902947)
I don't wear a seat belt, because I do my best not to get into accidents.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by mikeash on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @01:21PM (#14903065)
What's the plan for warning future civilizations away from mercury, arsenic, and other long-lived toxic waste? The current approach for those things is to dump it in a suitable landfill or similar, and let it be. Nobody seems worried about what happens when some future civilization discovers it thousands of years hence.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by beat on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @01:26PM (#14903132)
Maybe we should be worried.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by mikeash on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @03:41PM (#14904563)
Maybe. But I find it really weird that people constantly wring their hands over a few thousand tons of nuclear waste because it remains dangerous for ten thousand years, yet pay almost no attention to millions of tons of chemical waste that remains dangerous until the end of time.

I realize people can't worry about every single thing, and worrying about one thing doesn't mean other things aren't a problem. But at the same time, I see lots of people say that nuclear is worse than fossil fuels because of the waste problem, which makes no sense to me at all.

Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by wbl on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @03:18PM (#14904333)
They already have places full of mercury naturally: cinnabar mines.
Re:U.S. Nuclear Comeback Stalls as Two Reactors Are Abandoned by ghostbrainalpha on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @03:31PM (#14904454)
Man... I don't even care about "the millennials" who were born like 10 years after me.

Those privileged 8017'ers can get a new planet with their alien buddies if they don't like the Nuclear waste on this one. It's not like those fuckers leave their data plane and transubstantiate into physical reality (go outside) very often anyways.