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Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by randyrand on Saturday July 29, 2017 @02:58AM (#14879944)
Also they own the repair market. You can't get your tesla serviced at a normal shop as the software, parts, and diagnostics are proprietary, so they could actually sell the car at a loss and make the big bucks on repairs.

I don't want this. But its a viable business model.

Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by syshum on Saturday July 29, 2017 @05:56AM (#14880437)
We will have to see how long that lasts

Right now there are not enough of them on the road nationwide to justify a secondary shops wanting to service them, however if they meet their goals with the Tesla 3 there will be

This will result in law suits against Tesla if they do not provide a way for 3rd parties to make parts and service the vehicles as there are multiple federal laws the prevent this type of locking down

Car manufacturers have tried this in the past, it always fails to work out of them.

Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by Tomte on Saturday July 29, 2017 @04:26AM (#14880203)
Won't fly in Europe. They will have to open up all their diagnostics and special tools.
Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by zild3d on Sunday July 30, 2017 @07:19PM (#14888408)
isn't it already flying in europe?
Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by ArloL on Saturday July 29, 2017 @03:41AM (#14880064)
Actually this is the way most manufacturers already work today. That's why they are so slow to shift to electric - less spare parts.
Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by agumonkey on Saturday July 29, 2017 @05:21AM (#14880363)
The parts were supposed to be reduced compared to an ICE. What kind of important parts would they service ? (open question)

Proprietary diagnostics is not surprising, not a lot of cars right now have that amount of electronics and software, it's probably reverse engineering to get a glimpse of the car brain on your own.

Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday July 29, 2017 @06:54AM (#14880576)
From what I've heard Telsa vehicles rare in for warranty repairs at a higher rate than most other new vehicles.

"The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks."

The most common problems involve replacement of the electric motors, warped brake rotors, door handles that fail to slide out as a driver approaches, and numerous squeaks and rattles, which may be more apparent given the very quiet nature of electric propulsion.

Other problem areas cited by Tesla owners are leaking cooling pumps for the battery pack, dead windshield wipers, persistent alignment issues with the wheels, and misaligned latches for the front trunklid and the rear liftgate.

Thus far, all such problems have been handled under Tesla's four-year/50,000-mile warranty (it's eight years and unlimited mileage on the powertrain)--and owners appear to be pleased with the level of attentiveness and customer service they have received.

But Consumer Reports notes that once the car is out of warranty, such problems could become expensive for owners of older Teslas to fix.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1100561_tesla-model-s-to...

Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by agumonkey on Saturday July 29, 2017 @07:31AM (#14880669)
Oh I remember this now, but it's 2 years old. I dearly hope Tesla managed to install more durable mecano-electronics parts it would be a bad PR move to have the best electric motor / battery tech next to frail secondary one.
Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by overcast on Saturday July 29, 2017 @08:24AM (#14880862)
Yeh we don't need another John Deere.
Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by screye on Saturday July 29, 2017 @05:09PM (#14883019)
That is exactly how a lot of automobile businesses work.

Especially budget markets like India and the 2 wheeler industry.

Re:Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review by am1988 on Saturday July 29, 2017 @04:19PM (#14882836)
Yay, no real concept of ownership.