Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by i_am_nomad on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:33PM
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This has been used for a long, long time in mines, where communication can be very difficult. If there's a danger, e.g. gas buildup, trace amounts of mercaptan are added to the ventilation system. Miners smelling that awful rotten scent know to retreat to the nearest shelter area in the mine. To signal an all-clear, they replace mercaptan with wintergreen.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by scj on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:00PM
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My great-grandmother was deaf (since she was 10), and she knew if someone arrived after she went to bed (she was a farmer for much of her life, so she slept early).
How did she do it? Vibration. She could detect movement throughout the house. My great-uncle has a pretty good story of trying to sneak out/in after curfew.
So attach a motor connected to a smoke detector to the baseboard of a bed. For safety's sake, you'd use a pretty big motor. You'd also want to test it randomly.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by robalfonso on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:36PM
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They already make deaf alarm clocks for this. I actually use to use one for overnight alerts because I'm a heavy sleeper and I don't want to wake up my wife with my phone sounds.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by okreallywtf on Friday July 28, 2017 @01:12PM
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This was one of the things I liked about my fitbit, the vibrate alarm was more than enough for me since I'm a super light sleeper, and I can get woken up without waking up my gf. In fact, her fitbit vibrate would wake me up but not her but she's the one wearing it.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by rm_-rf_slash on Friday July 28, 2017 @02:03PM
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I went to RIT; the constant BZZZRRRT BZZZRRRT BZZZRRRT of deaf alarm clocks going off in several dorms at all hours of the day just became a part of life.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by QAPereo on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:50PM
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Same here, it has the ability to control the intensity and pitch of the tone, a unit to shake the bed, and the ability to flash a lamp of your choice. The lamp or the bed shaker is usually the way to go with someone else present, definitely.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by Slackwise on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:08AM
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I was gonna' ask why not just make it smell like strong smoke as to not confuse your instincts, but the key here is that it wakes people, not just notifies them.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by jdavis703 on Friday July 28, 2017 @03:53PM
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Doesn't smoke also wake people? One of my roommates once tried to burn my door down. The yelling and screaming prior to that didn't wake me up (I thought it was just part of a dream, I guess it was a REM sleep cycle), but the coughing from the smoke eventually got me out of my slumber. I'm pretty sure the body has a built-in smoke detector.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by pscarey on Friday July 28, 2017 @08:14PM
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I think you seriously underestimate the threat of a real fire - a mistake which a lot of people (rather sadly) make. People die in house fires because the do not wake up in time to get out - the place goes up pretty quickly, and smoke (+ poisonous gases) incapacitate and suffocate people before they even have a chance.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by zie on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:34AM
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Or you know, what has always happened in the past, and seems to work just fine.. super bright flashing light. Every school/govt building I've ever been that has fire alarms has these installed.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by inetknght on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:38AM
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I don't know about you, but if your eyes are closed and your covers are pulled over your face (like me when I sleep), there's a good chance you're not going to see the flashing light. If you're deaf, there's a good chance you won't hear it either.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by zie on Friday July 28, 2017 @09:55PM
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I am deaf. Those lights are freaking BRIGHT.. they might not wake me up from a deep sleep, but the vibrations from the sound and the super bright light, and I'd probably wake up. If not, my dog will definitely wake me up, that's his job :)
The problem with smell is, it takes a while to get dispersed, I'd probably smell the smoke about the same time as the wasabi. doh. I'm definitely wary of smelling smoke, it gets my notice for sure.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by BartSaM on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:20PM
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Both options should be complimentary to vibration. But best would be light and unique vibration. This way you can detect it no matter what you are doing.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by zie on Friday July 28, 2017 @09:59PM
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Indeed. I can feel the noise from those loud building type smoke alarms, that schools and govt buildings install all the time. Household smoke alarms are pretty puny tho, I don't usually feel those unless I'm paying attention. They are such a high frequency they don't vibrate in my body much, and are not very loud comparatively.. (since they only have a 9V battery for power)
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by inetknght on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:08PM
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True, but arguably the same can be said if you've got an ear infection or recovering from eye surgery or something; your respective senses aren't at full capacity then either.
I know that, in my experience, pungent smells have an interesting way of making it through some of the sickest olfactory sense.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by NikolaeVarius on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:47PM
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The Fire Alarms I've experienced also are so damn loud and screeching I can physically feel the sound waves. I would be amazed if Deaf people couldn't feel the vibrations. Also, would they still be able to feel their ear drums vibrating?
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by pbiggar on Friday July 28, 2017 @02:49PM
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Slight tangent here, but SV tech often gets criticized for building shit that people don't need (Juicero is a good recent example, but people said it about the iphone when it came out).
The upside of all that ridiculous tech for 22 year old dudes with too much money, is that it brings down the cost to manufacture valuable stuff like this, start hardware startups with good causes, etc. I know this is in a research lab, but there was a similar sonar-for-deaf-people one recently.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by icebraining on Friday July 28, 2017 @03:15PM
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I find it hard to believe that a few nonsensical hardware startups are responsible for lowering prices. The production sizes are just too small to have an effect on China's massive output.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by PeterisP on Friday July 28, 2017 @06:16PM
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That's kind of the whole point - the big manufacturers affect only the upstream providers of various scaling technology, tools, components and manufacturing systems suitable for mass production of very large batches; but the startup&maker ecosystem creates a market for a different kind of tools, vendors and components - ones that are useful for prototyping and building cost efficient small batch products.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by pbiggar on Friday July 28, 2017 @04:02PM
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Well, the iphone...
But the "cost" I'm referring to isn't just money. It's the amount of people who have done it, the expertise that's out there, the incubators, the support networks, the people willing to invest in hardware, etc, etc, etc.
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by tetraodonpuffer on Friday July 28, 2017 @12:15PM
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if the fire alarm is in a different room light would not work very well, with a strong enough smell no matter where you are in your dwelling you are going to notice it...
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by mfoy_ on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:21AM
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I hope after waking them it doesn't linger too long or with too much potency... imagine "too much wasabi" in the air as you're trying to get ready to leave your dwelling.... your scalp just prickling constantly and your eyes and nose watering...
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by tudorw on Friday July 28, 2017 @02:43PM
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This could be great for children, they are often capable of sleeping through alarms, also given the sense of smell has the lowest 'latency' to the brain out of all our senses it would seem worth investigating, I'd been thinking of experimenting on my daughter, she narrowly missed out on an early alarm call concocted of rotten eggs...
Re:Wasabi Fire Alarm Alerts the Deaf with the Power of Scent
by tyingq on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:18AM
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Searching Google shows most of the alarm clocks for deaf people have a tethered vibrating pad you put in bed next to you.
Sounds like an actual use case for iot. Some kind of standard protocol so different things can trigger the pad...phone, alarm clock, smoke detectors, etc.
How did she do it? Vibration. She could detect movement throughout the house. My great-uncle has a pretty good story of trying to sneak out/in after curfew.
So attach a motor connected to a smoke detector to the baseboard of a bed. For safety's sake, you'd use a pretty big motor. You'd also want to test it randomly.
Many resources in this area, but as a starting point: https://www.ready.gov/home-fires
I feel like if this product were going to make it big it would have done so by now.
But you still breathe. You can still smell.
The problem with smell is, it takes a while to get dispersed, I'd probably smell the smoke about the same time as the wasabi. doh. I'm definitely wary of smelling smoke, it gets my notice for sure.
Not if you have a cold.
I know that, in my experience, pungent smells have an interesting way of making it through some of the sickest olfactory sense.
I imagine that being deaf is what prevents this.
The upside of all that ridiculous tech for 22 year old dudes with too much money, is that it brings down the cost to manufacture valuable stuff like this, start hardware startups with good causes, etc. I know this is in a research lab, but there was a similar sonar-for-deaf-people one recently.
But the "cost" I'm referring to isn't just money. It's the amount of people who have done it, the expertise that's out there, the incubators, the support networks, the people willing to invest in hardware, etc, etc, etc.
If you're in another room (behind a closed door, for example) I can't imagine it's tremendously effective
Sounds like an actual use case for iot. Some kind of standard protocol so different things can trigger the pad...phone, alarm clock, smoke detectors, etc.
Before that I used to wear a Casio watch with the same vibrating alarm feature.
www.huffingtonpost.in/2017/07/27/smelly-bombs-imported-from-israel-are-not-stinky-enough-to-wor_a_23050273/