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Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by bsder on Friday July 14, 2017 @06:34PM (#14773736)
> I completely agree, but are the small, local competitors not subsidized by investors like Uber? I don't understand how a competitor without backing could compete against an established super corp.

You are 100% correct. The moment Uber and Lyft left Austin, competitors sprang up. The moment Uber and Lyft came back, the competitors are getting crunched.

Once the VC subsidies dry up, however, Uber and Lyft have no barrier to entry.

Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by diebir on Friday July 14, 2017 @06:43PM (#14773792)
If I am flying to Austin I am not going to bother with "local competitors". I just want to know whether "Uber is in Austin" or "Uber is in Russia". Yes? I will factor this into my travel plans. No? Not going to even bother. The barrier of entry for an app to MY iPhone device is very high. The barrier of my trust into a company is even higher. However much somebody might like to hate Uber, it is irreplaceable, precisely because they are manically expanded into everywhere in the world.
Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by ghaff on Friday July 14, 2017 @06:53PM (#14773852)
Or I'll just grab a cab at the airport like I always have. Same with many other cities.

[ADDED: Of course, I don't get the VC subsidies that way. But, in general, cab into city from airport hasn't been a particularly broken system relative to getting cabs in other places.]

Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by xyzzy_plugh on Friday July 14, 2017 @10:03PM (#14774643)
At least in my experience getting a cab at the airport is at least 4-10x the cost of a ride sharing company. The cities I travel to frequently have fixed-rate rides out of the airport, and they are heinous.
Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by sqeaky on Friday July 14, 2017 @07:09PM (#14773945)
Its only been around a few years. If they fail and everyone is talking about some other transport service you will eventually consider the others or start walking. What process led to "trust" Uber can be duplicated.

And many people don't have the same attitude as you. Some with avoid uber because of ethical concerns, some will install every rideshare app and carefully consider prices before getting a ride and others will just install whatever and do whatever else.

Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by subpixel on Friday July 14, 2017 @07:48PM (#14774143)
I understand the 'I don't want to install a new App' concern, but I suspect that will be obviated when you can hail a car using competing services' PWA (or whatever comes next).

At that point there really is no moat to protect Uber's business from competitors of all sizes.

And until then, I think most of us will gladly take 30s to install a new app for a better fare.

Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by phil21 on Friday July 14, 2017 @08:15PM (#14774284)
> I think most of us will gladly take 30s to install a new app for a better fare.

And then spend 20 minutes signing up with a username/password, storing it to your password manager, adding credit card details, adding customer information to the app, setting privacy settings, etc. etc. No thanks.

I'm with OP here. It is a huge barrier of entry for me to install an app. Mostly because exceedingly few apps should actually be apps (this is why we invented web browsers, but it seems everyone lost their collective minds lately) and I don't need a 50MB thing to invade my privacy to display what effectively is a web application written in html5 and javascript.

Uber is one of those apps that makes it onto my phone solely because it's universal. I have less than zero interest in installing a few dozen apps on my phone for my travels - how the hell would you even know which to use where? Yet another "30s" google?

Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by subpixel on Friday July 14, 2017 @10:16PM (#14774681)
> this is why we invented web browsers

Amen!

Re:Uber Backers Discuss Stock Sale to SoftBank, Others by petraeus on Monday July 17, 2017 @10:40AM (#14788863)
Its that old adage, what did children do before smart-phones?

How did people live before flushing toilets? I guess we will never know because life is uber. If uber doesnt provide it it must be impossible.