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Re:Genomic Analyses of Modern Dog Breed Development by halloij on Thursday July 06, 2017 @10:59AM (#14710891)
2. The problem here is that you can't train a bulldog to herd sheep. You can't train a poodle to be a livestock guardian.

Much of what working dogs do is pre-programmed. It's instinctive. Very little (if any) training is required.

Why try to train things to be things they were not already designed to be? It's FAR more efficient to breed the traits and instinct you want into a breed.

Re:Genomic Analyses of Modern Dog Breed Development by undersuit on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:29AM (#14711127)
Are you trying to make some kind of analogy to humans being limited to a certain skill set because of genetics? I hope I just reading too much into your reply to this thread.

Anyways, you can train poodles to be livestock guardians. http://www.vipoodle.org/HRP/VIP_herdingpoodles.html

Re:Genomic Analyses of Modern Dog Breed Development by adrianN on Thursday July 06, 2017 @01:37PM (#14712206)
Are you implying that every human can do everything equally well? Talent is a thing. I wouldn't beat Usain Bolt no matter how much I trained.
Re:Genomic Analyses of Modern Dog Breed Development by undersuit on Thursday July 06, 2017 @01:58PM (#14712380)
No, but I'm not implying that you can't train up to the 95% percentile. Not every dog can be Balthazar[1], but almost every single dog can be trained to sit. Not every human can be Albert Einstein, but almost every single one of them can learn Calculus.

[1]http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/23/britains-biggest-dog-is-7ft-an...

Re:Genomic Analyses of Modern Dog Breed Development by halloij on Friday July 07, 2017 @03:56PM (#14721547)
> Are you trying to make some kind of analogy to humans being limited to a certain skill set because of genetics?

Of course I am. Do you think anyone can be a great basketball player?

Trying to pretend that all races are "the same" is blindness.