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Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by corobo on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @08:49AM (#14701945)
Not sure where you are but here in the UK it's quite legal to ride a horse or drive a horse with a carriage of some kind on the road. The carriage needs to be "road worthy" but aside from that you don't even need a license of any kind unless you're transporting passengers.

It's just not very fast compared to modern cars and quite expensive so not as many people do it.

Edit: Oh one minor mostly common sense note -

You can't ride/drive horses on the motorway and probably shouldn't on faster roads or dual carriageways due to the rest of the traffic going far faster than you.

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by madeofpalk on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:10AM (#14702081)
In fact, in Australia, if you ride your horse up to a pub/bar, they're technically legally required to give water and feed for the horses.
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by athenot on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:26AM (#14702187)
That's awesome! Is it legal to ride your horse while inebriated?
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by logfromblammo on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @10:16AM (#14702548)
No, so put some oats in his feedbag and let him sleep it off.

Oh, you meant the rider. Yeah, that's fine.

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by sigstoat on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @01:03PM (#14704133)
> Is it legal to ride your horse while inebriated?

there was a fellow arrested in colorado a few years back for that:

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_24052312/cu-bould...

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by reacweb on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @10:06AM (#14702457)
probably safer than walking.
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by isk517 on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @10:44AM (#14702761)
Only if the horse is sober.
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by GoToRO on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @08:56AM (#14701989)
In my country they are banned on highways, national roads, cities. I was referring to that.

I think banning them on congested roads will increase the demand for public transport which is what we should have on those road anyway.

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by openasocket on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:01AM (#14702027)
You want to ban cars on congested roads? Isn't that a paradox? If cars are banned on a road then it won't be congested anymore, so cars will be allowed on it, then it will get congested so cars get banned ... in the end I think what you're suggesting is running around giving tickets to people in traffic jams.

Also, in what country did they ban horses?

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by viraptor on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:09AM (#14702070)
That's taking the idea to absurd extreme. You don't flip-flop the law every day. London for example has a congestion zone around the main city, which involves multiple limits and in many places removed congestion. This doesn't mean those areas are free for all again - the zone remains to keep out / reduce the congestion which would otherwise come back.
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by openasocket on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:18AM (#14702145)
In my defense, the OP said "banning cars." In London to deal with congestion they basically just turn large sections of the city into a toll road. That's pretty different than "banning cars"
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by corin_ on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @10:09AM (#14702485)
That's true, but whether banning cars or making it less attractive to cars (e.g. with London's congestion charge), the point is that places already have people working on road planning/etc., it can be done with humans making decisions, not a piece of code going "if (congested) {ban cars} else {allow cars}".

To use Oxford as a small example of more than a toll, there's a few roads in the city centre that only buses/taxis are allowed to use, and a few roads that only pedestrians can use (with some time-specific exceptions for loading/unloading/etc.). Nobody looks at it and thinks "well now it's not congested we should allow cars again".

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by lmm on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @11:38AM (#14703269)
> If cars are banned on a road then it won't be congested anymore, so cars will be allowed on it, then it will get congested so cars get banned

Some roads are congested even with private cars banned (e.g. Oxford Street).

> in the end I think what you're suggesting is running around giving tickets to people in traffic jams.

Would that be such a bad thing? Obv. it would need to be a little more formalized than that.

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by openasocket on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @01:05PM (#14704159)
You don't work in a city with shitty traffic and public transport systems, then. I live in D.C.

If I were to take public transportation to my job it would take about twice as long and involve me walking 5 miles both ways. And I get in traffic jams daily.

So yeah, if you went around penalizing people for something largely outside their ability to control, there would be riots in the streets.

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by GoToRO on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:09AM (#14702072)
You put public transport instead. At least on some city centers this is already happening.
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by corobo on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:05AM (#14702047)
Ah I see yes they are banned in the EU on highways - I'm guessing you're referring to Romania going by the site in your profile -

I'll concede that yeah in that situation (the ban resulting in going from business horses to no horses) was essentially banning them. They're not technically banned as such, but the rules they're under changed too much for them to be viable.

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by dspillett on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:04AM (#14702044)
Also they should not use cycle lanes unless local signs explicitly state otherwise.
Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by corobo on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:06AM (#14702054)
I didn't know that specific rule but I think I would have assumed it were I riding a horse.

In regard to road rules I'd see a horse as more a downgraded car than an upgraded bike, sorta like a motorbike but slower.

Re:Chinese plan for “traffic-straddling bus” ended after 32 ... by DanBC on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @09:12AM (#14702099)
It's not a rule, it's a "should not", not a "must not".

Rule 54: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-about-ani...

> You MUST NOT take a horse onto a footpath or pavement, and you should not take a horse onto a cycle track. Use a bridleway where possible. Equestrian crossings may be provided for horse riders to cross the road and you should use these where available (see Rule 27). You should dismount at level crossings where a ‘horse rider dismount’ sign is displayed.