Re:An old idea to make cities more pedestrian-friendly: pede...
by ant6n on Tuesday July 04, 2017 @11:24PM
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Transit is also a very big component in making a walkable city, and mixed use zoning.
These can come together by creating more dense mixed use centers around transit stations, forming many little town centers -- and overall a polycentric city.
Then many people will have services, shops and commercial activity (jobs) within raking distance, as well as the means to reach other centers or downtown quickly.
Re:An old idea to make cities more pedestrian-friendly: pede...
by brewdad on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @12:06AM
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Mixed use zoning is my biggest frustration with the suburb I currently live in. The city has done a nice job of increasing density to levels approaching that of the the "big city" we share a metro area with. The trouble lies with the fact that sq mile areas still tend to be entirely residential or commercial with no intermixing. This leads to driving since there is no good way to walk to shops or restaurants. It could be so much better.
Re:An old idea to make cities more pedestrian-friendly: pede...
by TulliusCicero on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @03:43AM
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Walking along arterials doesn't have to be bad. I moved from the states to Munich, here walking is soooo much nicer, because the sidewalks on the arterials are generally wider, and there's usually more separation between the sidewalk and cars (often a bike path and/or tree/grass line).
Re:An old idea to make cities more pedestrian-friendly: pede...
by Arcanum-XIII on Wednesday July 05, 2017 @03:16AM
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Honnestly, I'm not convinced about your argument, because creating a walk only part on a previously mixed road requires lot of planning and motivation beforehand, otherwise it's just a failure.
The previous mayor of Brussels city imposed it on one of the major road in the center — a wide, full of shop road. They did not put the hard work upfront, so it's mostly a closed road for not so obvious reason with some crummy decoration "waiting for improvement some days in the future".
What was a busy neighbourhood is turning quite nasty : it's ugly, shop are closing because people don't have way to get to them, insecurity is on the rise, incivility coming from cyclist are way up, emergency services are complaining about access — so the only "advantage" is the reduced pollution in this specific street. Traffic hasn't reduced otherwise, it's just elsewhere clogging more street than usual.
So I'm not convinced it's the perfect answer : it's probably part of the answer, but city planning need to change so it could be done properly and we're not there yet.
Re:An old idea to make cities more pedestrian-friendly: pede...
by undersuit on Thursday July 06, 2017 @02:22PM
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I wish my city was more proactive about pedestrians, but they allowed the city to grow for years without sidewalks in our residential areas, and we can't even pass legislation to get the small amount of sidewalks we do have cleaned of snow and ice in the winter. Only the oldest parts of the city are walkable, newer parts of the city you just walk on the side of the road and people give you odd looks.
My wife and I finally live somewhere with high walkability. It's wonderful, and highly underrated.
Of the many things that affect walkability, intersections aren't generally high on my list. But we do have one of these pedestrian scrambles near us and, as pedestrians, it _is_ a lot nicer. It has a rather large impact radius too: since it's the quickest way to get from the left side of the road to the right side (or vice versa), we can plan our walking path a couple blocks ahead and avoid having to cross at other intersections.
But like I said, intersections aren't high on my list for things that make cities pedestrian-friendly. Having quiet, nice looking side streets that connect all the various significant locations is the most important thing.
We avoid walking along major roads at all costs. For people who don't walk, it's hard to appreciate just how loud and droning busy streets can be. Walking along peaceful side streets is just that; peaceful. Miles can whiz by. But walking next to major streets is physically draining and turns the walk into a slog. Major streets also often lack big trees, which provide shaded respites during the walk in summer, and they're generally dull and give no flavor for the city.
The next important thing is having a good sprinkling of the necessities around: places to eat, stores, parks, etc. When things are close by, it's easy to convince yourself and others to walk instead of drive. "It's a beautiful day outside and this restaurant is only half a mile that way. Let's go for a walk!"
Walking around my city makes me feel more connected to it; adds a sense of pride. It gives you eyes on how the city is really doing; areas that are improving and areas that need help. Imagine if every denizen had that perspective!
And for programmers, like most of us here, I can't think of anything better. It gets you out of the chair, and walking is a great elucidator of thoughts and bugs.