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Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by nailer on Saturday July 01, 2017 @03:09AM (#14675824)
Finance in London basically funds the entire sex industry.
Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by vostok on Saturday July 01, 2017 @03:12AM (#14675831)
Paying someone for sex is not the same as harassing your coworkers. You're also extremely naive if you think this doesn't happen in every other sales heavy industry.

London just happens to have a large financial sector. I can assure you that the same thing happens in the oil, tech, and real estate industries for example.

If we're taking about anecdotes, I had a friend in college who was a sex worker and most of her customers were in tech.

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by nailer on Saturday July 01, 2017 @08:28AM (#14676818)
Sure but the entire team meeting at a strip joint after an official corporate event is harassment.
Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by taway_1212 on Saturday July 01, 2017 @11:06AM (#14677407)
> sex worker

What's wrong with a word 'prostitute'?

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by bogomipz on Saturday July 01, 2017 @12:01PM (#14677632)
"Sex worker" denotes consensual sex work, while "prostitution" includes human trafficking.

Also sex workers includes dancers in strip clubs, phone sex operators and adult magazine models none of which engage in the physical act of sex with others as part of their job:

https://rewire.news/article/2008/05/06/sex-work-trafficking-...

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by qb45 on Saturday July 01, 2017 @03:30PM (#14678541)
Agree about strippers etc, but to me "sex worker" sounds like something that could equally well be voluntary or coerced, just like any other worker.

Wikipedia article on gulags refers to prisoners as "workers" several times.

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by bogomipz on Sunday July 02, 2017 @03:52PM (#14684034)
The term has actually been promoted by sex workers specifically to distinguish it from the cooered version of sexual employment.
Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by qb45 on Sunday July 02, 2017 @05:58PM (#14684569)
Yeah, weaponized linguistics. The problem is, as any weapon, it can backfire.

General public doesn't give a rat's ass about jargon churned out by all those activists. And I'm absolutely not singling out sex workers here, SJWs tend to be the biggest offenders now.

If public familiarity with some subtle, nonobvious definition of "sex worker" is an important point of their strategy, they are probably doing it wrong. If they are getting collateral damage from the human trafficking propaganda, they can talk about "legal sex work" or whatever to cut themselves from it.

Activists overestimate familiarity with their jargon and ideas in the public. Firstly, because they live in echo chambers. Secondly, because virtue signalers amplify apparent popularity outside of the echo chambers too. It's a trap. Ask people who were sure that Trump will lose.

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by bogomipz on Monday July 03, 2017 @03:18PM (#14690677)
Its really amusing you have chosen to make up your own ridiculous term - "weaponized linguistics" yet you have a hard time accepting the rather mundane and intuitive term "sex worker." Even more laughable than your own made up term is your use of an esoteric acronym(and no, I don't know or even care what it means.)

Also I was not promoting the term or any agenda I was simply explaining the nature of the term to the OP because they asked. Maybe you should go back and read the context.

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by qb45 on Monday July 03, 2017 @06:08PM (#14691806)
I'm glad that you liked "weaponized linguistics".

I don't have any problem accepting "sex worker". I think it's a fine and intuitive way to describe somebody doing, well, sex-related work. I only don't find it intuitive at all that it must necessarily be somebody working willingly. I think it's an assault on grammar rules and logic to insist that people believe so. Three others appear to agree with me, or at least upvoted that post for whatever reason.

The esoteric acronym is of minor relevance, feel free to disregard it if your time can be better spent than researching this issue.

Note that I took a great care to rant in third person ("they"). Nothing personal.

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by greglindahl on Sunday July 02, 2017 @09:06PM (#14685236)
So, for example, let's say you're an activist and you use "SJW" with the general public. Is that an example of overestimating familiarity with your jargon?
Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by qb45 on Monday July 03, 2017 @03:09AM (#14686433)
Yes :)

I now feel compelled to explain myself. My use of it was only in a secondary remark, non important for the main point of my post. And I think somebody versed in the nuances of sex work advocacy may have heard of this concept too. If not, well, not much loss.

Interesting that you caught SJW and missed virtue signaling. This is more obscure I think and, admittedly, it was a part of my main point. So, from google:

the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.

Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by greglindahl on Monday July 03, 2017 @02:30PM (#14690387)
I didn't miss "virtue signaling". I was being concise.
Re:Silicon Valley Women, in Cultural Shift, Frankly Describe... by vostok on Saturday July 01, 2017 @11:20AM (#14677466)
Do you think all sex workers are prostitutes?