A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers increases shipping costs

Re:A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers in... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @02:51AM (#14643005)

I moved from china (Beijing) to the USA (LA) for the much cleaner air. Ya, parallel universe for sure, it's like comparing mordor to the shire, where the former is freaking out over its horrible pollution problem while the latter doesn't notice anything wrong.

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Re:A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers in... by FullMtlAlcoholc on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @04:25AM (#14643377)

People in LA, and Californians in general do care about pollution. After all, it is one of the birthplaces of the modern environmental movement in the US.

Despite its urban sprawl, LA has one of the lowest emissions per capita in the US, lower than nyc even. The pollution tends to accumulate due to it's geography, being that the city is in a basin instead of dispersing. Tear down the Santa Monica and San Gabriel mountains, and the air quality would be greatly improved.

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Re:A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers in... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @01:03PM (#14647134)

I was being a bit sarcastic, but ya, you are completely right. My point really was that the US isn't falling behind, China just has much larger problems to deal with ATM and so they are beginning to take the environment seriously.

Both LA and Beijing have similar topological bowl and inversion problems. Tear down the western and northern hills in Beijing, and the air quality would also be greatly improved.

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Re:A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers in... by sigi45 on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @03:33PM (#14648573)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

So yeah no.

USA on place 12, Germany 38 and China is at 55.

Better list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

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Re:A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers in... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday June 28, 2017 @11:36AM (#14655011)

Carbon dioxide doesn't mean shit when the current PM2.5 AQI outside is 200 or 300+. You are talking about a global problem, I'm referring to the local one that will give you lung cancer and not just cause sea levels to rise.

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Re:A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers in... by nerdponx on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @08:49AM (#14644863)

And I suspect that similar reasons of geography lead to New Yorkers not caring about pollution as much as they should. From what little I know about weather, all of the pollution in New York City gets blown right out into the Atlantic

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Re:A shift in China to less toxic coatings for containers in... by NikolaeVarius on Tuesday June 27, 2017 @09:33AM (#14645200)

Except NY/NYC has extremely low greenhouse gas production per capita. I am aware this is not equivalent to all pollution, but its asinine to claim that New Yorkers don't care.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_carbon_...

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