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Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by oh_sigh on Friday June 23, 2017 @01:37PM (#14621052)
Ads benefit both you and the other group that they connect you. You finding out about, say, a product you are interested benefits you.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by jodrellblank on Saturday June 24, 2017 @03:01AM (#14624690)
http://www.talkingnewmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/ou...

http://moneyinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/nypostoutbrai...

Benefitting. You.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2044DNCEAAHmu-.png

The next time you want to buy, say, 9 celebs in open relationships.

http://www.cpawealthacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/R...

This is what ads are. This is what we adblock. This is clickbait, lies, manipulation, visually distracting, space wasting, untrustworthy, barrel scraping garbage.

"Ads inform you about products" in the same way slime mould informs you that your house is too damp. The best individual course of action is not to buy what the mould is selling.

Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by gpm on Friday June 23, 2017 @02:24PM (#14621432)
In a perfect world, yes. In the real world ads are about manipulating through every psychological trick in the book to buy shit you don't need. To manipulate you into thinking brand A is better than brand B (both of which you were already aware of). Etc.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by CaptSpify on Friday June 23, 2017 @01:41PM (#14621088)
In theory, yes

In actuality: they are a waste of my time and mental space

Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by Ajedi32 on Friday June 23, 2017 @02:25PM (#14621438)
That's true in the sense that having no ads at all would be better; but if you're going to be seeing ads either way, why wouldn't you want them to be ads for things relevant to your interests?
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by CaptSpify on Friday June 23, 2017 @03:49PM (#14622213)
Why would I be seeing ads either way? I generally don't see them at all.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by Ajedi32 on Friday June 23, 2017 @04:37PM (#14622558)
Whether you block ads or not is kinda beside the point. It's a little unreasonable to expect Google or anyone else to stop personalizing the ads they're trying to serve you just based on the fact that you're blocking them.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by oh_sigh on Friday June 23, 2017 @02:02PM (#14621270)
I'll agree that most ads are junk and not relevant to a users life, but that doesn't mean all ads are.

Having said that, I've never clicked on an ad in Gmail since 2004 or so.

Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by roywiggins on Friday June 23, 2017 @01:47PM (#14621137)
That's just a rare side-effect, not the reason why the scanning happens, or why the ads are shown.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by oh_sigh on Friday June 23, 2017 @01:59PM (#14621248)
The ads are shown exactly for that reason. If the only ads shown were for products or services or information which the consumer was not interested in, then no one would pay for advertisements in the first place.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by coldpie on Friday June 23, 2017 @02:07PM (#14621314)
Apparently spreading malware is pretty high value, actually.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by throwaway2048 on Friday June 23, 2017 @01:54PM (#14621201)
Out of curiosity do you work in advertising tech or marketing?

They are about the only people I've ever seen express this view seriously.

Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by oh_sigh on Friday June 23, 2017 @01:58PM (#14621240)
Nope - I am a developer working on a consumer oriented application with no advertisements.

I'm not trying to say that all ads give you that benefit - most are just a waste of screen space, compute and bandwidth.

Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by majewsky on Friday June 23, 2017 @04:29PM (#14622501)
Even if I agreed that some ads have benefit, the cost-benefit analysis (with costs including screen space, compute, bandwidth and the malware threat) still looks grim enough to justify adblocking IMO.
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by soperj on Friday June 23, 2017 @01:41PM (#14621087)
What if you're buddhist?
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by jodrellblank on Saturday June 24, 2017 @03:18AM (#14624723)
"Zen does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes while being informed about ten local places to purchase God with next-day delivery."
Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by sqeaky on Friday June 23, 2017 @02:51PM (#14621709)
There are many flavors of Buddhism, which one matters here for the point you are making?

EDIT - I am not sure why I am being downvote, I legitimately don't get his point and figured I would for more info rather than just calling him out as a troll or something. Is there something obvious I should know?

Re:Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads by CaptSpify on Friday June 23, 2017 @07:31PM (#14623524)
Disclaimer: I know nothing of Buddhism, I haven't even read the Wikipedia page

I believe some Buddhism teaches something along the lines of: personal possessions are bad, and freedom is found in not owning anything.

I think OP is saying: advertising goes directly against that line of thinking. It is actually tempting a Buddhist to buy more stuff, thus going against their religion.