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Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by Apreche on Friday June 16, 2017 @07:32PM (#14573320)
Bribe all of congress. It's not that expensive for someone with Bezos money. Why let energy companies, telcos, insurance providers, and military contractors get all the action? Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Apple are bigger than they are!

For less than the cost of SpaceX they could have just bribed congress to give NASA sufficient funding.

For less than the cost of whatever Bill Gates tries to do with education, he could have just bribed congress to fund schools properly.

If they really believed in equal rights regardless of gender, sex, nationality, sexual orientation, race or religion, they could bribe congress to fix those things.

If they cared about the environment, you could bribe congress to fund the EPA more.

Single payer health care, they can just make it happen.

If I had that money, that's sure as hell what I would be doing with it. The fact that they haven't already suggest to me that maybe they don't actually believe in these things as much as they sometimes pretend to. Rich assholes never put their money where their mouth is.

And when I say bribe I mean the legal kind. Where you fund their campaigns through SuperPACs. You can outspend those Koch bros. easily. Why not go for it?

Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by veidr on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:08PM (#14573483)
You're effectively saying, become a lobbyist.

And you're right. It's a great idea. A sort of white-hat political force (controlling a tangled web of various corporation/non-profit/PAC type entities) that, instead of trying to gain some narrow advantage at the expense of the public, does the opposite.

If Bezos really has the balls to spend it, he has enough money; a presidential campaign, the most expensive kind, only costs 1.2 gigadollars or so[1].

You only need 60 senators and a couple hundred members of the House of Representatives to get whatever shit done you want. So doling out $10,000,000,000.00 a year or so in the right places would go a long way.

Of course, eight years later you're broke, the patient hegemony of other rich people and corporate interests reasserts itself, and America starts sliding down the path to democratic failure again...

[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-electi...

Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by lyjackal on Friday June 16, 2017 @07:47PM (#14573400)
You seem kind of cynical about it, but I like where you're going. Fix lobbying. Seems like an excellent plan
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by andrewstuart on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:16PM (#14573520)
Isn't owning the Washington Post (as Bezos does) a step in the direction of influencing social outcomes?

Rupert Murdoch is the primary backer of all things right wing in the world, and does more to influence elections and governments than Russia ever could. He wields that influence through media ownership.

Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by throwaway-1209 on Friday June 16, 2017 @07:40PM (#14573365)
You seem to think money grows on trees. Your suggestions can't be implemented without taxing people like Bezos to death. In fact, I'm pretty sure they can't be implemented at all, no matter who you "bribe".
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by yequalsx on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:07PM (#14573479)
Every wealthy nation but the U.S. provides universal healthcare. They all provide much more subsidized higher education. They do theses things without taxing people to death. Do you have any evidence to support your belief?
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by throwaway-1209 on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:10PM (#14573488)
They have different cost structures and much higher taxes, and their healthcare couldn't exist without multi billion research efforts US healthcare consumer pays for. How much pharmaceutical innovation is there outside the US?
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by orbifold on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:20PM (#14573943)
There are many multi billion dollar companies that do pharmaceutical research outside the US, their revenue is not exclusively from the US, suggesting there would be no healthcare without the US, is like suggesting there would be no cars without the US

[Roche](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoffmann-La_Roche) [Merck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merck_Group) [Bayer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer) [Sanofi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanofi)

Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by throwaway-1209 on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:28PM (#14573963)
Merck is a US company. Switzerland has no government provided healthcare and their healthcare costs are also very high.
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by orbifold on Saturday June 17, 2017 @12:48AM (#14574325)
Merck isn't a US company, it is a German company. There is a US company with the same name that originates from a seizure of US assets of the German company with the same name.
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by throwaway-1209 on Saturday June 17, 2017 @01:29AM (#14574433)
Also known as the Merck that actually invents new drugs and rakes in almost three times the revenue of the German counterpart. I wonder if the fact that it's a US company has something to do with that. Hmm.
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by yequalsx on Saturday June 17, 2017 @08:49AM (#14575670)
You are making factual claims without providing evidence. It might be true that advancements in healthcare wouldn't be st the level it is today without the U.S. but to ascertain that their healthcare wouldn't exist without the U.S. is clearly incorrect.

Even supposing all pharmaceutical innovation comes from the U.S. still does not show that without the U.S. there would be none. Clearly there is a market for drugs and the U.S. is not the only country with research capabilities.

Taxes are not that much higher elsewhere. People are not being taxed to death elsewhere.

Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by lawpoop on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:22PM (#14573759)
You're saying the rest of the world is so poor, their health care systems are bouyed as a /side effect/ of the research that companies do, financed by the their average American customer?
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by throwaway-1209 on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:37PM (#14573806)
They aren't poor. But for some reason they don't like to pay for drugs, R&D or defense. That's gotta change.
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by lawpoop on Saturday June 17, 2017 @10:32AM (#14576040)
Why does it have to change? It's a free market, internationally. Perhaps if they don't want to pay for drugs, drug companies should stop selling to them.
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by mbroncano on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:37PM (#14573807)
How's education related to pharmaceutical innovation? How's single payer health care related to it, anyway?

It seems the barbarians are certainly at the gates. Oh well, we had a good ride.

Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by throwaway-1209 on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:11PM (#14573916)
Our education system and business environment produces a hell of a lot more innovation (including pharma) than the rest of the world produces combined. The rest of the world then piggy backs on all that and invests diddly squat into R&D, all while being smug about their social safety net. Don't be so quick to dismiss the US way of doing things. While imperfect, it's not beyond repair either.
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by yequalsx on Saturday June 17, 2017 @09:32AM (#14575824)
I'll ask again. Do you have any evidence to back up your claims? You are arguing by assertion. Where is the evidence your assertions are correct?
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by anonymoushn on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:15PM (#14573514)
So your position is that it's good that it's illegal to arbitrage prescription drugs across the US border? I'd love to hear more.
Re:Jeff Bezos: Request for ideas by throwaway-1209 on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:20PM (#14573536)
No. I'd love to see lower drug pricing in the US. One must understand, hovewer that this will cause the prices to rise everywhere else. Which is quite all right with me. About time those folks started paying their fair share. They might even get their own pharma research going if they have to pay through their nose like we do.