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Re:Elon Musk Publishes Plans for Colonizing Mars by antisthenes on Friday June 16, 2017 @02:04PM (#14571263)
What was condescending about my post?

> It'd be an entire planet built with modern understanding of city planning, environmentalism, governance, etc. Whether a Martian society winds up better is hard to say, but different seems pretty certain.

There's nothing stopping you from doing that in the inhospitable areas on Earth. If you bring the money and the plan, most governments will let you make a planned city.

This is precisely the arrogance I was talking about. Thinking it would be any different because of the extremely inhospitable conditions. If you don't see the arrogance here - I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to convince you of it. It's simply a difference of viewpoints.

Re:Elon Musk Publishes Plans for Colonizing Mars by sqeaky on Friday June 16, 2017 @02:53PM (#14571709)
The condescending things about your post were your implicit assumptions that the other poster was incapable of basic math, the presumption that as soon as he saw the basic the math he would turn to your way of thinking, the presumption that your way of thinking was clearly superior and finally calling him naive.

He desires to be part of something grand and huge at the beginning of an era, then you insult and deride his grand dream by belittling it and telling him to make a planned city. It seems to me that he would rather be the lowliest janitor on Mars than a Mayor of planned city here and you cannot fathom how that could be, so you presume he is wrong or confused

He wants something that is impossible now. This is a common human goal. You fail to understand human nature then claim to have all the answers. Your points may all have been correct, but they were not the points that were needed.

I am not saying either of you are wrong or right, but you clearly brought plenty of arrogance and condescension.

Re:Elon Musk Publishes Plans for Colonizing Mars by ceejayoz on Friday June 16, 2017 @03:07PM (#14571815)
> What was condescending about my post?

Gee, probably the "If you'd just go camping you'd see your lifelong dream is bullshit" and "You're naïve and hubristic" bits.

Re:Elon Musk Publishes Plans for Colonizing Mars by antisthenes on Saturday June 17, 2017 @07:58AM (#14575496)
Clearly, you're fine putting words in other people's mouths and making subjective claims about the nature of one's post.

You're fine rejecting my arguments for why his post is arrogant, but somehow yours about why my post is condescending are valid.

That's a toxic and arrogant way of arguing, so I'm not surprised you're projecting something I didn't say. Honestly I would have expected better from an HN audience, but techies are still people...

Also quite indicative of what would happen on Mars.

Re:Elon Musk Publishes Plans for Colonizing Mars by ceejayoz on Saturday June 17, 2017 @09:25AM (#14575796)
I'm not putting words in your mouth. Direct quotes: "No offense, but you sound like a person who hasn't been outdoors a lot, not even on an overnight hike." and "That should hopefully rid you of the naivete and hubris about space frontierism."