If you post this again and again please get your facts straight first: 2800 € is the amount for a single person. A married sole-earner in a family of four gets generous tax benefits resulting in 3300 € net (insurance included) plus 380 € child benefits. Substantially more I'd say.
Agreed. But please also consider the extra benefits for welfare recipients. Extra clothing support. Generous checks to buy their first furniture, laundry machine, TV. Maybe even a computer (not sure about the computer).
Fact is, even as a full working engineer your available money is not significant different. A policeman with two kids and his wife not working has less money as such a family living on welfare. In fact, he would qualify for subsidiary income.
And we are not talking yet about refugess with 4 wifes and 23 kids.... http://www.rhein-zeitung.de/region/lokales/westerwald_artike...
As a rule of thumb 2000 € can be used for four persons for initial furniture etc. After two months the 60k earner is ahead. Clothing is already included in the rates you posted (there is some additional clothing support if you get another, lower rate).
Police earnings are a bit complicated but basically everyone with kids gets more than welfare after initial training. Some young police officers from Berlin (rightfully) recently complained that they are below that but this is the exception.
Policeman compared to welfare (Sorry, Link in German): http://www.huffingtonpost.de/2017/03/13/gewerkschaft-polizei...
This is exactly the case I referred to in my comment above. As the article clearly states this is very exceptional and rightfully a problem.
Re:The Old Are Eating the Young
by TurboHaskal on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @08:24AM
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Can confirm that sometimes I have the impression that my SO's cousin is living quite a nice life (housewife, three children, husband's blue-collar salary) compared to us (childless, combined 6 digit salary, can't afford a 3 bedroom house without signing a 30+ year mortgage).
Re:The Old Are Eating the Young
by taway_1212 on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @09:10AM
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> A refugee on welfare would get approximately 400 per adult plus 300 per kid plus rent paid (and free insurance).
Does it apply to refugees only, or to everyone?
That's the minimum amount you need to live with dignity in Germany as defined by the Federal Constitutional Court and thus applies to everyone although foreigner's are subject to certain restrictions. Many refugees get less than that.
60k is 2800 € net per month. A refugee on welfare would get approximately 400 per adult plus 300 per kid plus rent paid (and free insurance). For a family of four this is 1400 Euro. Let's assume 1000 for rent in a city. This is 2400 so basically the same that you have.