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Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by nickh9000 on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @05:08PM (#14548658)
Seems like you are taking your interview rejections to heart.

Don't do that.

Most companies go with the mode don't hire unless the candidate is a great fit, because they don't want to bear the cost of a mistake. I have failed a decent number of interviews, some on technical ground, some on personal ground. I still think I am not a bad programmer, despite the failed interviews.

Like you I also have doubts about my abilities despite 12 years of work history in the Valley. Impostor syndrome.

Realize that most people are not as smart as Zuckerberg, and that they don't have to be. Don't use geniuses as a measuring stick of yourself.

The most important question is whether you like coding. If you do, pursue it. Whatever deficiencies you have, you will mend as you get more experienced.

Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by roryisok on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @03:07AM (#14551129)
Is Zuckerberg really considered to be a genius programmer? He's a very shrewd businessman alright, but Facebook is just a php website
Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by vtsingaras on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @03:15AM (#14551166)
'Facebook is just a php website'

....... ok then

Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by doubleplusgood on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @03:24AM (#14551192)
As originally built by him, it was indeed just a php website.
Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by samblr on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @03:51AM (#14551262)
>> it was indeed just a php website.

How quickly can one build and how quickly can it scale ? - Speed is the name of the game - is it not this rule which holds true when building things on internet.

Or else, most of top internet apps are just going to be php,rails,node web-apps

Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by UK-AL on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @07:33AM (#14551979)
The point is once it started to get to medium and large scale, there was experienced developers scaling it instead of zuckerberg.
Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by roryisok on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @11:28AM (#14553423)
This was my original thought. Zuckerberg hired people to scale facebook to what it has become today.
Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by batoure on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @05:28AM (#14551549)
After I started writing my response I realized you might just be trolling but I thought people might think its interesting anyway.

One of the reasons that facebook succeeded in the early days of social was because it was so stable and well built. Their major competitor in the early days MySpace was a notorious frankenstein's monster of different codebases that regularly went down and broke parts of the site.

The chasm that separates web site and web application is wide facebook has always been a very advanced web application. I have spent a good portion of my career building decent scale (not facebook scale) web applications.

Several years ago I hired a data engineer who's primary experience had been in building custom data sets for BI organizations in big companies. He happened to drop in on an early planning meeting for an RFP we were completing and heard what we were proposing the MVP cost to build out an internal application for a company would be. Shocked he asked the room "why would someone pay us this much to build an overblown website". Two years into the project he gave our wider team a presentation on his role in the project the architectural complexities and places the team had innovated on the last slide of the deck he wrote "Closing Remarks: We should have asked for twice as much to build something this complicated"

Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by roryisok on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @11:36AM (#14553489)
I honestly was not trolling. Maybe naive, maybe posting without thinking about it much, but not trolling
Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by NeutronBoy on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @11:54AM (#14553605)
Is it better to be a genius programmer, or an average programmer with an good understanding of the problem domain?
Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by danieltillett on Thursday June 15, 2017 @06:38AM (#14559190)
I am biased, but real understanding of the problem domain will beat programming genius every time. Very few problems require genius programming, but most require an acute understanding of the problem [1].

1. What works really, really well is pairing people with deep domain knowledge and some programming ability with those who just have great programming ability.

Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by eeZah7Ux on Wednesday June 14, 2017 @12:41PM (#14553916)
genius programmer? Not at all.
Re:Ask HN: How to get a job when you suck at coding? by thephyber on Tuesday June 13, 2017 @06:38PM (#14549264)
This is the best answer currently on this thread.