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Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by whatever_dude on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:58PM (#14534262)
This is not surprising. Given that iOS now has "sharing extensions" in a similar way that Android has sharing intents, custom integration with arbitrary apps never made much sense; it is harder to maintain and useless in certain contexts (countries, etc). This had to happen sooner or later.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by watmough on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:00PM (#14534029)
Hooray!!!!

Clearly Apple sees which way the tide is running.

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by smackfu on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:29PM (#14534159)
Did they also remove the contacts integration?
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by djrogers on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:53PM (#14534237)
Care to explain?
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by akeck on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:57PM (#14534254)
If you had the FB integration set up in a certain way, all your FB friends would become entries in your iOS/macOS Address Book. It can make a huge mess.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by lathiat on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:19PM (#14534542)
The problem this causes me is it adds email addresses you can't remove to contacts. And for some reason using Siri on the Apple Watch often wants to iMessage/SMS one of these Facebook addresses instead of the most recently used address for that contact (actually I think the real problem might be more than 1 contact with the same name?)

To make this worse on my carrier (Telstra) these messages go through but Telstra very kindly turns them into an email that I may or may not see until much later

Drives my wife and I a little bonkers. Should probably have filed a radar however I guess maybe it will be moot in iOS11

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by drivingmenuts on Sunday June 11, 2017 @07:33PM (#14534390)
That's especially fun for me when my phone syncs with my car's handsfree setup. I wind up with all my FB entries (which have no phone #'s attached) mixed in with all the deliberate entries which do have phone #'s. I wind up having to scroll thru 150 or so extra entries on the radio screen just to make a phone call in traffic.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by CodeWriter23 on Monday June 12, 2017 @07:16AM (#14536350)
"Siri call <name>"
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by nier on Sunday June 11, 2017 @05:43PM (#14533949)
Would be awesome to choose which app handles Twitter URLs.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by H4CK3RM4N on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:13PM (#14534521)
I'm pretty sure iOS has the website issue a request to open X app w/an argument, so in this case it's Twitter making a request to open their app if installed.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by pawadu on Monday June 12, 2017 @04:24AM (#14535812)
Not sure how it works on iOS, but on Android apps tell OS what websites they can handle.

This does have some security implications, so there is a mechanism for web sites to vouch for an app.

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by BillinghamJ on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:08PM (#14534065)
If they just use https://twitter.com/blahblah it will automatically open into the Twitter app
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by wlesieutre on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:43PM (#14534209)
Yes, I believe that's the problem nier is hoping to correct
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by 520794 on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:41PM (#14534595)
Why did they have this "integration" in the first place?

User can "frictionlessly" upload personal data to some website but transferring data to some private location like say an SD card is not something any user would want?

Why is it these companies make the sensible things difficult if not impossible to do. While they make the unwise things like pushing personal data to some kids website (who called other users "dumb fucks" for sending him personal data).

Today people complain about excessive tweeting. Yes, it made sense for Apple to believe iOS users would want/need to share every stupid thought with the world media but not to be able to send private messages directly to other users without using Apple as a middelman.

But I guess they have learned a thing or two in 10 versions.

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by untog on Sunday June 11, 2017 @11:46PM (#14535111)
They offered the functionality because users wanted it. Get off your high horse.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by dang on Monday June 12, 2017 @03:37AM (#14535666)
This sort of incivility will get your account banned here, regardless of how wrong or annoying another comment is, so please don't do this again.

We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14534595 and marked it off-topic.

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by untog on Thursday June 15, 2017 @04:14PM (#14563973)
To be clear: "get off your high horse" is considered incivil?
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Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by chambo622 on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:03PM (#14534047)
Yeah, this was last week's news from WWDC. Not sure why it's picking up the votes now.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by RubenSandwich on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:26PM (#14534141)
It is interesting because it allowed easy integration, literally just a few lines of code, to Facebook and Twitter accounts for iOS developers. It was also easy for the user as well because as long as they were logged into those services system wide they literally just had to hit a button to login. It helped a bunch of startups quickly onboard users with very little time or effect and now those days are drying up. Expect updates soon to about 75% of your iOS apps. (Yes, it really is that common.)
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by eridius on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:39PM (#14534195)
Most apps that integrate with social services use the share sheet. And the ones that use Facebook and Twitter directly almost always actually use the frameworks that Facebook and Twitter provide for this. Not very many apps are strictly using the SLServiceRequest stuff.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by lathiat on Sunday June 11, 2017 @07:35PM (#14534400)
I've found most apps were using the website login flow instead. Which used to annoy me but I assume it's because many are using cross platform frameworks.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by djrogers on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:18PM (#14534540)
I have one, possibly two apps out of the hundred plus on my phone that have Facebook or Twitter integrations built-in using this feature. The vast majority of them either don't have those integrations, or use Facebook or Twitter's own methods to do it.

Curious where you're getting your 75% and "Really that common" ideas from.

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by RubenSandwich on Sunday June 11, 2017 @09:02PM (#14534664)
Disregard me, I'm wrong. I assumed that when they integrated Facebook and Twitter account settings into the main iOS system settings. They also created methods in the iOS SDK to pull up those login pages/handle the transitions to the those apps, if installed, but I'm wrong. I just looked it up and you still need the Facebook/Twitter SDKs to accomplish that. So like most numbers on that internet that one is made up.

I'd edit my comment if I could but it's been to long. Sorry about that.

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by Retric on Sunday June 11, 2017 @07:33PM (#14534391)
I find it interesting you say 75% when zero of the Apps I use integrate with either Facebook or Twitter. Now I am kind of curious which of us is closer to the norm.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by tehwebguy on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:37PM (#14534188)
I'd guess like 75% of my apps have a weekly update 0_0
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by coldtea on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:27PM (#14534145)
It involves a major new version of a major mobile OS, and how it drops integration for major social media platforms.

In HN where we get posts for minor Node and Golang update releases, what more exactly do you needed it to have to be on the front page?

To discuss an effective way for achieving cold fusion?

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by dang on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:54PM (#14534244)
Could you please dial back the snark a notch? We're aware of the extent that you do this already, and greatly appreciate it. But I've noticed it upticking recently.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by coldtea on Sunday June 11, 2017 @09:05PM (#14534669)
>We're aware of the extent that you do this already, and greatly appreciate it.

Yeah, I've gotten somewhat mellower as time goes by. And to think I aspired to HST levels of snark once (or at least Hani Suleiman -- anybody remember that guy?)

>But I've noticed it upticking recently

Arrg. Probably my new diet. Some sugar will help me dial it down, thanks.

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by quickben on Sunday June 11, 2017 @08:05PM (#14534503)
He does sound snarky, but then again, some days Google is indeed featured in 5+ stories on the front page.

Didn't NH have some smart algorithm to prevent that?

Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by dang on Sunday June 11, 2017 @09:00PM (#14534654)
Two different issues.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by cylinder on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:53PM (#14534242)
It's good for us Android users to realize iOS still doesn't have proper sharing.
Re:Apple removes Facebook and Twitter integration from iOS 11 by qrbLPHiKpiux on Sunday June 11, 2017 @06:24PM (#14534134)
At they trying to avoid an anti trust something? Either way, I like this.