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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by gnaritas on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:00PM (#14523577)
That's not user hostile, that's user friendly, those things enable them to delivery a standard experience (something you cannot get on a droid) on their appliance to users who by the way love the shit out of them for how well their phones work. You might not like Apple, but their users do precisely because of those things. Apple sees their phones as appliances, not as personal computers to be customized; that approach has earned them die hard loyal fans who love those appliances as is. We don't all want to hack our phones, I'll take an iPhone over a droid any day, it's a much better experience.
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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by ErikBjare on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:09PM (#14523635)
I think you're right, but that kind of thinking is what leads to less open devices and software, which in turn leads to technology serving whoever controls it first and foremost.
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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by gnaritas on Friday June 09, 2017 @04:07PM (#14524092)
An open market requires choice, including the choice for closed appliances. As long as alternatives exist, there's nothing wrong with closed platforms, those who want choice have Droid. Open devices and software come at a cost, they don't deliver the same experience you can get on a closed appliance that due to tight control over hardware and software can deliver a consistence experience impossible to deliver otherwise, this has always been Apple's way and it's how they deliver the experience they do.
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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by soperj on Friday June 09, 2017 @04:54PM (#14524484)
It's not impossible to deliver otherwise. Apple could open source IOS and it wouldn't preclude them from doing exactly what they're going to do.
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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by gnaritas on Friday June 09, 2017 @06:51PM (#14525169)
Non sequitur. They could not deliver "their" experience without locking down "their" hardware/software on "their" devices to keep it under control thus avoiding all the issues faced by the droid camp. Whether they could or should release iOS to run on other hardware has nothing to do with anything being discussed.
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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by soperj on Friday June 09, 2017 @07:06PM (#14525245)
What are you even arguing at this point? What's the difference between every android phone and an apple aside from the openness of the software? No one is providing open hardware.
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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by gnaritas on Saturday June 10, 2017 @03:06AM (#14526453)
> What are you even arguing at this point?

Ask yourself that question.

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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by soperj on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:05PM (#14523608)
Bullshit. No one loves apple because of using torx screws and requiring certain bits at the front of their hard drives or soldering the empty ram slots shut so that you can't upgrade it later. It doesn't provide a "standard experience", or make their "phones" work any better.
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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by gnaritas on Friday June 09, 2017 @03:06PM (#14523615)
I didn't say that, I said they love the standard experience, and that standard experience is enabled by making the phone an appliance that isn't meant to be hacked on or tampered with, i.e. those things. They are not personal computers to be "upgraded" or hacked to your hearts desire, they're toasters, use them as is, that's the intended experience and that's exactly what their customers by in large prefer. If they didn't do that, they'd be droid with all droids inconsistencies and weirdness from phone to phone having to deal with all kinds of different hardware.

If you want that kind of control over your phone, Apple isn't for you, use a droid.

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Re:Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other... by soperj on Friday June 09, 2017 @04:46PM (#14524416)
>That's not user hostile, that's user friendly

It really isn't.

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