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Re:iPad Pro by Eric_WVGG on Monday June 05, 2017 @04:49PM (#14491861)
Funny, I watched this and it reminded me of a leaked Microsoft executive looking at OS X "Tiger" and saying "it's like getting to use Longhorn two years early"

(which is to say, iOS 11 makes Surface look archaic, IMHO)

Re:iPad Pro by arcticfox on Monday June 05, 2017 @05:59PM (#14492591)
Archaic? Matter of opinion, but I don't see anything at all that gives that impression.

The only thing I came away with was an amusing question about how Apple is going to reconcile iOS with Mac OS someday, like Microsoft has already been working on / done for years

Re:iPad Pro by dkonofalski on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:05PM (#14492644)
I might be in the minority here, but Microsoft hasn't "reconciled" a damn thing with the different versions of Windows. Instead of getting a great, consistent experience on multiple devices, they've gotten a half-baked, schizophrenic experience on them.
Re:iPad Pro by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday June 05, 2017 @07:11PM (#14493150)
I don't know why you need to reconcile them.

Should MS reconcile the XBox with the PC?

I think because the overlap between the usage of a tablet and a PC is so great, people think there should be some sort of convergence.

So long as everything uses the same methods of communication, file formats, protocols etc everything will be ok.

For most people, software is also solved. Everything is a web app. So what's really missing?

Re:iPad Pro by mynameisvlad on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @12:20AM (#14494706)
> Should MS reconcile the XBox with the PC?

Uhh. We have. A while ago. The Xbox One ran Windows 8 until IIRC last year when it got upgraded to Windows 10. UWP apps are just that, universal across PCs, phones, Xbox One and HoloLens.

Re:iPad Pro by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:10AM (#14495574)
That's not really what I meant.

You don't buy an Xbox and then write essays or do your taxes on it do you?

You play games and maybe watch some movies. Doesn't matter that Excel will launch.

Re:iPad Pro by eltoozero on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:24PM (#14492796)
Tablet "mode" does not make a seamless tablet experience.

Case in point: I'm an IT guy meeting another vendor in the field mid-day. He pulls a dead surface from his bag and is now looking for an outlet, I pull my iPad, which hasn't been charged in a week, and it's at %20 but still good for the rest of the day.

What good is a mobile computer with a dead battery?

Re:iPad Pro by rhodysurf on Monday June 05, 2017 @10:26PM (#14494236)
Your point makes no sense. If I didnt recharge my iPad it would be just as dead.

Not to mention, the surface takes weeks to die while hibernating

Re:iPad Pro by obstbraende on Monday June 05, 2017 @05:15PM (#14492141)
do you have more info on that quote? I'd like to read more about that time, but google failed me
Re:iPad Pro by Eric_WVGG on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:34PM (#14492880)
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2012/08/microsoft-lo...

Then, in June 2004, Steve Jobs announced that Apple was releasing its new operating system, called “Tiger.” And inside Microsoft, jaws dropped. Tiger did much of what was planned for Longhorn—except that it worked.

E-mails flew around Microsoft, expressing dismay about the quality of Tiger. To executives’ disbelief, it contained functional equivalents of Avalon and WinFS.

“It was fucking amazing,” wrote Lenn Pryor, part of the Longhorn team. “It is like I just got a free pass to Longhorn land today.”

Vic Gundotra, another member of the group, tried out Tiger. “Their Avalon competitor (core video, core image) was hot,” he wrote. “I have the cool widgets (dashboard) running on my MAC right now with all the effects [Jobs] showed on stage. I’ve had no crashes in 5 hours.”

Re:iPad Pro by gumby on Monday June 05, 2017 @08:23PM (#14493656)
> Vic Gundotra, another member of the group, ...wrote “...I’ve had no crashes in 5 hours.”

That's like a parody of what a Microsoft hater would say, yet it's an actual quote from Microsoft. Makes me feel sorry for them in retrospect.

Re:iPad Pro by intended on Monday June 05, 2017 @10:39PM (#14494294)
Somehow they managed to turn it around enough that there's discussions in this thread about a windows surface and an iPad Pro. Which is something in itself.