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Re:iPad Pro by BatFastard on Monday June 05, 2017 @03:58PM (#14491103)
Why two separate devices when you can do it all on one? Right, so Apple can sell you more over priced hardware.
Re:iPad Pro by allover on Monday June 05, 2017 @04:03PM (#14491168)
I think I just explained why I prefer two separate devices, but to clarify further: I don't like Windows, I prefer a unix-based OS for work, and iOS is a much better tablet OS in my opinion.

Also I don't agree with 'over priced hardware'. I tend to find if you look for comparable hardware from other manufacturers the prices are similar (e.g. Samsung S8 vs iPhone, Dell XPS vs Macbook).

Re:iPad Pro by BatFastard on Monday June 05, 2017 @04:43PM (#14491780)
So the best processor you can get on a macbook pro is an i5. Dell XPS comes with an i7. Same memory, same SSD, Mac has worse graphics card. Mac has soldered in memory. And it 600 bucks more.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B0...

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro

Re:iPad Pro by mikewhy on Monday June 05, 2017 @05:03PM (#14492026)
On a 13-inch, sure. The 15 inch all have i7 processors.

The screen resolution is much higher, they come with double the ram, not a "home OS" (whatever that is), and I'm not sure how an AMD 560m stacks up against an Nvidia 960m.

Not to say the MacBook will be cheaper, just pointing out discrepancies in your comparison.

Re:iPad Pro by p1esk on Monday June 05, 2017 @05:13PM (#14492124)
Here you go: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1Q0M4O

Dell is $1,000 cheaper than a comparable MBP.

Re:iPad Pro by dkonofalski on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:03PM (#14492624)
A plastic computer is not the same as one from machined aluminium. They may have similar specs, but they are not the same computer and the premium you pay falls directly into the spots where your specs fall apart.
Re:iPad Pro by kartickv on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:16AM (#14495593)
But that still doesn't mean I'd pay $1000 more for aluminium. $100? Okay. $1000? No.
Re:iPad Pro by dkonofalski on Monday June 12, 2017 @07:16PM (#14541898)
That's fine, but if aluminium costs $1000 more and there are obvious benefits, then it's no longer the same computer for $1000 less. The quoted Dell is not $1000 cheaper for the same computer because it's objectively not the same computer.
Re:iPad Pro by p1esk on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:04PM (#14492634)
Got any data to support you opinion?
Re:iPad Pro by dkonofalski on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:11PM (#14492694)
Wut? Are you suggesting that it's just my opinion that machined aluminium is not the same as formed plastic?
Re:iPad Pro by p1esk on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:15PM (#14492740)
No, I agree they are not the same. I thought you were implying machined aluminum is better.
Re:iPad Pro by dkonofalski on Monday June 12, 2017 @07:15PM (#14541892)
The word "better" is too subjective to make any kind of meaningful assessment.
Re:iPad Pro by jamespo on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:09PM (#14492676)
It's running windows though
Re:iPad Pro by dpatru on Monday June 05, 2017 @07:09PM (#14493139)
Re:iPad Pro by finnnk on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:48AM (#14495490)
Well I have one of those and it was properly packaged, sounds like the reviewer bought one that dropped off the back of a van to me.
Re:iPad Pro by amygdyl on Monday June 05, 2017 @11:44PM (#14494584)
I recall reading a familiar source I usually expect to be sensible (I've had memory problems since a head trauma a couple years back, which frustrate me constantly over seemingly unimportant context that's actually more disorientating than I like to admit) anyhow I received the impression that only the 13" models of the MBP with the new oled bar actually perform solidly for the headline spec and I can't recall any reason why now. Am I completely misinformed by my recollection or is the reality of a $2700 laptop that is the practical price of the performance one might expect just a garbage datum stuck in my mind? I'm not at all anti Apple, in fact particularly careful recently to seek a entry point into the ecosystem for a variety of reasons. This iPad announcement at least solves what my first Apple device in 27 years is going to be...

Edit typo contract-context

Re:iPad Pro by garyclarke27 on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:41PM (#14492932)
I've run a top of the range MBP for 4 years. 60% of the time I run Windows 10 perfectly via bootcamp, only takes a few seconds to switch. Previously I would have bought a new laptop once a year, Apple build quality and durability is light years ahead of Dell or the umpteen other pc brands I've tried so ends up being much cheaper in the long run. As with clothes, cost per wear not cost of purchase.
Re:iPad Pro by coldtea on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:09PM (#14492675)
Why buy forks and knives and beer openers and such when you can just have a swiss army knife?
Re:iPad Pro by TheOtherHobbes on Monday June 05, 2017 @07:16PM (#14493184)
Indeed.

My mobile office has been reduced to a 12" iPad Pro with a 13" MB. All files are kept in iCloud and shared between the portable devices, a MBP, an iMac, and a custom PC.

The two portables together - inside a shared soft case with plastic protectors on each - weigh a lot less than my 15" 2015 MBP, and vastly less than a 17" Dell laptop I tried to use for a while. Having two big screens and one real keyboard is hugely more productive than trying to do everything on a single device.

The MBP gets hauled out for anything that needs more power or a bigger screen - not often in practice, because the battery life isn't anywhere close to being good enough for a full day of work.

I moved to this setup from the MBP about six months ago, and it's been a big step up in productivity. With two fairly light devices I can do almost anything I need to do almost anywhere. It's at least as productive for coding, research, and social as my old non-portable dual-screen Mac Mini setup from a few years ago.

It's not powerful enough for content creation, but that needs extra music hardware and bigger displays, and for now I'm happy to leave the tools for that at home.

As a bonus, the big iPad on its own is also the best ereader I've ever used.

Re:iPad Pro by falcolas on Monday June 05, 2017 @07:34PM (#14493314)
Maybe I want to use my fork and knife at the same time, in each hand?

Not to mention, the knife in a Swiss Army knife is going to be way worse than a similarly priced knife. There's a number of things you can do with a $60 knife you can't with a Swiss Army knife.

Re:iPad Pro by gglitch on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @12:15PM (#14498369)
Off-topic, but I'm a lifelong collector of knives, and I use my $13 Spartan about 100x more than any of the others. Honestly, probably not an exaggeration. Its utility divided by its cost is extremely happy-making.
Re:iPad Pro by ghaff on Monday June 05, 2017 @08:27PM (#14493680)
I think that was the parent's point.
Re:iPad Pro by coldtea on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @07:00AM (#14496284)
Indeed.
Re:iPad Pro by ihuman on Monday June 05, 2017 @04:00PM (#14491135)
I'd rather have 2 devices made for dedicated form factors that play to the pros and cons of said form factor, than a jack of all trades, master of none.