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So, it is dead on arrival for me and all the other privacy-minded people that run ad blockers, which is a large and increasing percentage of the population.
Pay those who create it.
Allow free access to public information.
The entire advertising market worldwide is $600 billion, which works out to roughly $600 per man, woman, and child among the 1 billion inhabitants of the US, EU, Japan, CA, AU, and NZ. (Or OECD states, if you prefer, or G-7.)
Total media spend (print) is on the order of $200/year. Cable + broadband on the order of $1500 - $3000 per year (content and connectivity).
Seems to me there's some streamlining potential possible.
Piecework is actually a tremendous distraction.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1uotb3/a_modes...
Not the grandparent poster, but I would have preferred if you'd either ommitted this part or provided some justification for why you feel it isn't a ~~public~~ non-rivalrous good.
is there public information? sure. there's also private information.
The definition you are using is not that.
Quite this.
P2P CDNs are one solution, but they aren't perfect either. They may be a lot easier to adopt than monetary roadblocks though.
In the future, a combination of mandatory P2P CDN participation and a monetary P2P CDN opt-out fee may be the best compromise. No ads, and everyone is actually helping host the website (be it through their own personal bandwidth and storage or through monetary means).
Assume that one person works full time on it. $5,000 a month is $60,000 a year. Subtract hosting costs and it's a relatively low income for one person who has the skills necessary to build and administer such a web site.
> not too shabby
It is actually a little shabby.
Perhaps in many parts of the US, but plenty of places elsewhere in the world, this is a really attractive salary.
you're greatly overestimating the difficulty of setting up a forum and the costs to have 15,000 active accounts with 1 hour viewing time.
Given the above is true, I have a proposition for you: I will pay you whatever you consider fair payment for fifteen minutes of your time to set me up a web site with an income of $5,000 dollars a month.
I've already provided instructions on how you can trivially setup a phpBB forum using cPanel.
This statement is incorrect. You haven't provided instructions on how one can trivially set up a phpBB forum using cPanel.
But how would you know if a site is useless or not unless you visit it and read its content? So you will be paying to view a site that you have never seen before, this will limit discoverability of new sites imo
Noscript identifies all the useless sites for me when nothing renders and I see that they're pulling in scripts from 20+ trackers, CDNs, and ad networks. I avoid violating any social contract by never having seen their dreck.
Yeah, you might risk your five bucks on that first purchase of Time, but you'll know soon enough if you ever want to spend it again.
It worked, technically, but the return was basically zero.
They get small amounts of micro transactions (I'm talking less than a cent) and I change my behavior to stop going to useless sites.
everyone wins!
personally, I believe ads are a disease. if your website isn't worth paying a penny to go to for an hour, then just shut down. a penny an hour could be very sustainable for plenty of sites. take some random forum: 15,000 thousand users per month, let's say the average user goes on for an hour a day, or 30 hours a month. 450,000 cents is about 5 thousand a month. not too shabby. if your website is that awesome up the price to 10 cents and increase your money an order of magnitude.
the problem is the culture of "free", unfortunately.