The US has forgotten how to do infrastructure

Re:The US has forgotten how to do infrastructure by Mz on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @03:00PM (#14455021)

Many people are genuinely trapped. Just because I have been able to pull this off does not mean other people are simply free to choose.

Urban cores are often insanely expensive and not necessarily where someone wants to live just because they don't want a car. I am wholly unimpressed with your hypocritical comments here that boil down to "Don't tread on ME or interfere with my right to own a car and drive all over the place while the world bends over backwards to make that convenient, but your lifestyle preferences? Oh, fuck you."

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Re:The US has forgotten how to do infrastructure by mason240 on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @03:22PM (#14455198)

You're replying to a comment where I made clear that I want you to be able to make your own lifestyle preferences.

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Re:The US has forgotten how to do infrastructure by Mz on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @03:32PM (#14455252)

They have right to choose to limit their standard of living, as you have done, and move to an urban core and be completely dependent on transit for transportation.

This is dismissive, insulting of my preference to live without a car and rather hostile. If you were intending to say that you support my right to choose, you failed to communicate that. It came across as contemptuous and is in no way sympathetic to the fact that walkable neighborhoods and public transit are not hostile to drivers the way the current car centric American landscape is hostile to pedestrians.

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Re:The US has forgotten how to do infrastructure by primeblue on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @05:35PM (#14456122)

Only a minority of the country lives without children where a car is necessary. And who's rich enough to live in an urban centre with 2 children? More importantly who would!

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Re:The US has forgotten how to do infrastructure by shados on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @07:41PM (#14456789)

I wish. Then I wouldn't get woken up by little brats every Saturday morning. I live in one of the densest, most expensive neighborhood in the US outside of SF, and there's still a bazillion little kids and screaming babies all over the place living in lofts with no green area in sight, and even though the nearby schools are terrible.

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Re:The US has forgotten how to do infrastructure by TulliusCicero on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @04:03PM (#14455472)

People can't really though, because of zoning and government planning. Like even if you wanted to make an area more walkable by inviting, say, a corner grocery store to set up shop in your neighborhood, usually you can't, because of single-use zoning.

And before you say, "well then just move to the city center!" perhaps you should consider that we're talking about a very common urban form across the world that is strikingly uncommon in the US due to government forces? Not exactly "people making their lifestyle preferences", more like "government imposing lifestyle preferences", and it's mostly just due to cultural momentum at this point.

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