Re:As Computer Coding Classes Swell, So Does Cheating
by lostboys67 on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @06:27AM
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One of the problems with GPS designators was when you changed batteries it reset to your current location which has lead to more than one blue on blue
Re:As Computer Coding Classes Swell, So Does Cheating
by salesguy222 on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @07:02AM
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Wow, that's brutal. I wonder if those American lives are considered collateral damage too to those pushing for war
Re:As Computer Coding Classes Swell, So Does Cheating
by lostboys67 on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @07:04AM
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Yes it was a bug in the embedded software as I recall - the testing did not make it squaddie proof.
Re:As Computer Coding Classes Swell, So Does Cheating
by varjag on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @05:24AM
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Pretty sure operational missile targeting isn't done by programmers.
Re:As Computer Coding Classes Swell, So Does Cheating
by salesguy222 on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @06:10AM
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Do you think a typographer can enter coordinates into a system from the late 80s?
The pilots themselves can't even enter the coordinates. These planes were programmed by the CIA.
Re:As Computer Coding Classes Swell, So Does Cheating
by varjag on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @06:45AM
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I believe they are entered by authorized service officers using methods typical in other industrial data entry applications (e.g. serial console). Entering waypoints and target coordinates has nothing to do with computer programming. Just like when you bum an extra trailing zero in your Excel spreadhseet it's not a programming error.
Re:As Computer Coding Classes Swell, So Does Cheating
by salesguy222 on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @07:07AM
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While I can agree with you that entering waypoints is not quite analogous to software engineering, I think we are arguing over semantics.
Especially in 1999 and especially with legacy systems, the word "programming" means "providing computers with coded instructions for the automatic performance of a task".
This is similar to how a television network would "program" a list of shows to occur in order automatically.
I suppose my overriding point here is that there are credentialed people with smart sounding degrees whose maximum extent of interacting with computers is typing in instructions.
And therefore, we should be extremely wary when we use credentialing as the litmus test for "should they enter bomb coordinates that will be flying over civilian heads"
In 1999, when the US was engaging in a bombing campaign in Serbia against "military targets" that were staffed by civilians, the US bombed the Chinese Embassy, killing several and injuring dozens of civilians.
The US later "apologizied" by saying "sorry, we programmed the coordinates improperly."
Now, I'm not sure if that means some CIA intern college kid task monkey supplied the wrong coordinates to the bomb programmer, or if the bomb programmer typed the (correct) coordinates improperly.
But, software absolutely does kill people when wielded by lazy, incompetent, and often, diploma-holding programmers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the...