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Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by BatFastard on Saturday May 27, 2017 @02:14PM (#14431177)
One thing I think Google has going for is it "Guides" program. Where user get "points" for correcting mistakes, adding new places, and publishing pictures. I have been in it for a few months and it feels good to contribute.
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by avar on Saturday May 27, 2017 @05:04PM (#14431977)
I was uploading images to Google Maps before that anyway, and if I recall signed up for it, it's just a point meter.

Google then sends you a summary of how your contributions were doing. Recently they send me some E-Mail to the effect of "Awesome! Your image on <business name> has been viewed 100 thousand times!" or something like that.

It entirely turned me off the whole thing and I haven't contributed since. I thought "why am I contributing to this ad-powered product that they're monetizing for millions, for free?".

It's kind of hilarious really. If you look at their landing page the benefits you can gain include things like "...and you can also moderate our forums, for us, for free!": https://www.google.com/local/guides/benefits/

Yay!

Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by esolyt on Saturday May 27, 2017 @05:59PM (#14432145)
I believe the idea is the motivate you to contribute further by proving that your edit made a difference. How does your edit being viewed 100 thousand times makes you less interested in contributing? Would you rather contribute to a product nobody uses?

> I thought "why am I contributing to this ad-powered product that they're monetizing for millions, for free?"

You already knew Google Maps was monetized by ads, before making an edit.

I don't think it's fair to see this as free labor for Google. Your edits to Google Maps could be related to your own business. Or you might be helping your favorite local business to get more visibility and customers.

Perhaps it can also be seen as a contribution to your neighborhood.

Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by darren_ on Saturday May 27, 2017 @08:25PM (#14432585)
Huh, there actually used to be a real benefit - free Drive storage upgrades once you hit a certain tier. Guess things got popular enough they ditched it.

(disclaimer: work on maps, nothing to do with guides tho)

Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by hoschicz on Sunday May 28, 2017 @10:13AM (#14434437)
I have been occasionally contributing to Google Maps and thought that I will get the Drive storage!

They never mentioned it in any of their emails, or the "newsletters" you get "access" to once you hit level 1.

Now, the grand reward (once you hit more than 500 points) is being a "trusted Google tester".

This is a joke and free work for Google. I will be contributing to OSM from now on.

Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by Gustomaximus on Saturday May 27, 2017 @07:02PM (#14432332)
Also they started pushing 'rate where you were' notifications way too much. Initially notifying when in maps app moved to ever increasing out of app notifications. That's when I stopped and turned if all maps notifications.
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by erikpukinskis on Monday May 29, 2017 @01:34PM (#14440270)
I might not be motivated by that now (I'm 35) but when I was in my 20s I found it incredibly exciting just to see something I made get used by other people. I think it's a natural desire.

Since then I've gotten a little obsessive about specific goals, so I'm less compelled by it, but I don't think that's an inevitable aspect of aging, it's just how my personality turned out.

Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by gniv on Saturday May 27, 2017 @10:02PM (#14432810)
> I thought "why am I contributing to this ad-powered product that they're monetizing for millions, for free?".

Can you show me a single ad on Google Maps?

Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by Jackim on Saturday May 27, 2017 @11:36PM (#14432981)
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by grey-area on Sunday May 28, 2017 @01:00AM (#14433142)
Booking a place from the place entry is done via ads
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by awqrre on Saturday May 27, 2017 @06:37PM (#14432241)
yeah, the only real benefit for you is that their map doesn't suck. But the bad part is that they could still shut down or charge for the service at any time.
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by asdfgadsfgasfdg on Saturday May 27, 2017 @07:46PM (#14432462)
> it feels good to contribute.

I don't understand. Why does working for free for multi billion dollar corporation feel good?

Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by osteele on Saturday May 27, 2017 @09:34PM (#14432723)
Not the GP but I share the sentiment. I enjoy doing work that benefits others (in this case other map users), even if a third party stands to gain as well. I don't think of it as "working for": I understand the economics, but not all activities need be conceptualized as transactional.
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by asdfgadsfgasfdg on Sunday May 28, 2017 @03:43AM (#14433475)
Can't edit this so replying. If you want to feel good and like you are helping then work on a project with a free license like open street map.
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by DavideNL on Sunday May 28, 2017 @03:21AM (#14433445)
i sort of agree... but on the other hand, at least they offer the "result" (Maps) for free. LinkedIn for example lets user pay to search for (some of) it's "users own" data! :(
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by blazespin on Saturday May 27, 2017 @02:39PM (#14431280)
Does that data go open source or are you paid for it?
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by zapt02 on Saturday May 27, 2017 @02:42PM (#14431289)
Neither. But as I use Google Maps almost every day, I feel it's beneficial to both Google and me to improve the map quality.
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by BatFastard on Saturday May 27, 2017 @02:53PM (#14431358)
Agreed. Even if its owned by Google.
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by snthd on Saturday May 27, 2017 @05:57PM (#14432140)
Re:A Year of Google and Apple Maps by comex on Saturday May 27, 2017 @02:42PM (#14431297)
No and no, although there is a points system with some meager benefits:

https://www.google.com/local/guides/benefits/