802.eleventy what? Why Wi-Fi kind of sucks

Re:802.eleventy what? Why Wi-Fi kind of sucks by michaelt on Friday May 26, 2017 @12:47PM (#14425413)

  Third, there are unreasonable economic expectations by
  users as well as the article's author: Wait you want
  gigabit speeds, ultra-reliability in challenging radio
  conditions, and that at a tenth of the cost of a 3G
  mobile radio?

How are customers supposed to know what "economically reasonable" expectations are if suppliers are flat out making claims they can't deliver?

Imagine you're planning a trip to City X, you look online and four-star hotels with brands you've heard of quote $75 a night. If you turn up and it's not a four-star hotel, is it your fault because you had "unreasonable economic expectations"? Should you somehow have known that the going rate for a four-star hotel room was $500 a night, when half a dozen reputable suppliers were offering the same thing at a fraction of the cost? Seems to me it's not your fault - you've been a victim of fraud.

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Re:802.eleventy what? Why Wi-Fi kind of sucks by bsamuels on Friday May 26, 2017 @12:52PM (#14425446)

dont think i've ever seen packaging that advertised that a router works well in a crowded environment

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Re:802.eleventy what? Why Wi-Fi kind of sucks by pixl97 on Friday May 26, 2017 @03:30PM (#14426546)

At least on the outside of the packaging, I don't think the vast majority talk about spectrum over allocation.

Of course many issues like that could be solved if APs shipped with their signal strength on low rather than blasted to the FCC limits. But I don't think we'll see that changed any time soon.

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Re:802.eleventy what? Why Wi-Fi kind of sucks by smallnamespace on Friday May 26, 2017 @05:51PM (#14427474)

Unknown unknowns. Does the average consumer even understand that contention is an issue?

All the average person sees is the number of bars in their wifi connection UI, which AFAIK doesn't take contention into account, only signal strength.

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Re:802.eleventy what? Why Wi-Fi kind of sucks by BenjiWiebe on Friday May 26, 2017 @09:10PM (#14428373)

WiFi bars should be color coded for contention. Green = rf is all mine, Red = get neighbors to turn down transmit power.

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Re:802.eleventy what? Why Wi-Fi kind of sucks by paulddraper on Friday May 26, 2017 @03:20PM (#14426489)

And the hotel didn't advertise that they weren't in the ghetto.

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