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Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by akavel on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @02:28AM (#14407964)
I've read the Wikipedia summary, and it appears to me, that GDPR only requires encryption, not anonymisation, of personal data! Or did I miss something?
Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by nsebban on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @03:07AM (#14408073)
It also requires trivial opt-out and readability of the opt-ins.

And it gives enough power to really control what companies are doing with people's data. And the fines are huge (up to 3% of the company's global gross amount) compared to what exists today.

Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by amelius on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @03:45AM (#14408204)
Can users still be manipulated to opt-in to a service X if they want a service Y badly enough? I.e., you can only use Y if you also take X?

How many people would opt-out of (or not opt-in to) a service like Google search?

Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by bonzini on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @05:22AM (#14408667)
There are some things that must have a separate opt-in from the bare minimum that's necessary to provide the service.

Typically, there are three bullets on European privacy forms: handling personal data to provide the service, handling personal data for commercial and advertising purposes, sharing personal data with third parties (usually for commercial and advertising purposes). Pre-printed forms can only have the first ticked to yes, the other two must be filled in by the customer.

Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by tskaiser on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @05:41AM (#14408743)
But can ticking those boxes be mandatory for using a service? ie. "if you don't tick all three boxes you won't have access to Google Search"?
Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by bonzini on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @02:36PM (#14412338)
No. Anything not strictly necessary must be opt-in.

See also: https://www.google.it/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2...

Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by kevsim on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @03:55AM (#14408244)
Think it's actually 4%. Seriously huge fines
Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by cobbzilla on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @04:02AM (#14408276)
Just wait to see how the lawyers game these. my bet is no major corp ever pays a penalty that high, ever. there may be some egregious offender that gets caught with this, but not one of the big boys.
Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by ddalex on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @04:29AM (#14408400)
If I'm in debt to somebody 10.000, he owns me. If I'm in debt 10.000.000, I own him. Huge fines for behemoths will always be negotiated.

Nevertheless, it's a strong incentive for even the biggest companies to follow the law. EU has the capability and desire to enforce huge fines to make sure data protection laws are obeyed.

Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by Freak_NL on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @05:00AM (#14408558)
They actually do get fined huge sums, and they do pay up. To them it is just the cost of doing business.

Facebook getting fined for privacy violations:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39958630

Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by dx034 on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @04:32AM (#14408412)
Fines in antitrust cases can already be huge so I would doubt that those fines could be gamed if regulators take it seriously. The alternative to paying a fine is being banned from the market, which for the EU is a big deal.
Re:Google starts tracking what people buy in physical stores by rama_dan on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @10:30AM (#14410259)
> Think it's actually 4%. Seriously huge fines

And we'd all be delighted with taxes as low as 15%!