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Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by shostack on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:13PM (#14396141)
I for one will do my part to help pick up the slack in demand.

While the wholesale price has fluctuated, has there been much change in retail/restaurant lobster prices? I certainly don't see restaurants near me lowering the price of a lobster roll. If anything, looks like Old Port Lobster Shack in Redwood City increased theirs judging by what Google shows in their menu listing for a "Maine Lobster Roll" ($18.75) vs. what their website shows ($22.95). But that's just a local price in a market that in general seems to see prices racing upwards due to the influx of cash in the area.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by ghaff on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:35PM (#14396308)
Current pricing is often reflected to at least a certain degree in authentic lobster shacks on the Maine coast. However, in general, lobster is still priced in many places as this premium good. (I'm looking at you Legal Seafood with your $26 lobster rolls.) And, even worse, it's still common to hide the pricing behind "market price."

(It's fair that lobster pricing does fluctuate more than other proteins but "market price" is at least as much about reducing pricing transparency.)

So, the short answer is that lower lobster pricing doesn't seem to have led to widespread lower pricing in most places.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by kirykl on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:49PM (#14396400)
Market price in this case is retail. Its the price that will move the inventory of lobsters for the most money, before they die of starvation or kill/eat each other in the tank.
Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by ghaff on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:59PM (#14396468)
Of course lobster pounds and the like have a market price that's usually posted on a chalk board or whiteboard.

What I was referring to was regular restaurants that routinely don't list a price for dishes that use lobster on their menu and instead just say "market price." Which, in my experience, is more or less a synonym for "expensive."

I'd note that, in addition to lobster pounds, it's far more common for coastal Maine restaurants to have the price for lobster in their menu like they do for every other dish.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by mjn on Monday May 22, 2017 @07:38PM (#14397717)
The article does discuss why there isn't a significant decline in price. Its two proposed explanations are increased demand from Chinese buyers, and increased demand from the relatively new lobster-roll phenomenon:

> This leaves the Maine (and Canadian) lobster industry with another interesting challenge: how to find enough buyers for all those lobsters so that prices don't collapse. As you can see from the chart below, they've mostly succeeded:

> [price chart]

> Affluent Chinese diners have been one reason. This January, five chartered 747s full of live lobsters flew from Halifax, Nova Scotia, to China to supply Chinese New Year feasts. Maine's lobsters tend to make the voyage less dramatically, in regularly scheduled flights from Boston, but $27 million worth of them were shipped to China in 2016.

> The national and even global spread of the lobster roll has also helped a lot. I came to Maine on a trip organized by Luke's Lobster, a fast-casual restaurant chain that now has 21 "shacks" in the U.S. and eight more scheduled to open this year, along with six licensed locations in Japan. ... Luke's Lobster now has its own plant in Saco, Maine, that processes between 4 and 5 percent of the state's lobster harvest. Processing, in this case, means cooking and picking the meat out of the claws and knuckles for Luke's lobster rolls while cleaning and freezing the raw tails and clawless "bullet" lobsters for sale to restaurants, groceries and such.

> Holden's father, Jeff, says that tails used to sell for much more than claw meat. Now lobster rolls, for which tail meat is generally too chewy, have flipped the price equation.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by clashmoore on Monday May 22, 2017 @04:22PM (#14396626)
Anecdotally, I am in the North East and I do recall a year (probably 2012ish) where every local restaurant had exploded with lobster specials. Not necessarily whole lobsters for sale, but their meat used as a choice of protein along side chicken, beef, etc. The price at that time dropped to like $9 per pound in the super markets.

Since that year, I haven't seen the same offerings where this Bloomberg article would suggest that the amount of harvested lobsters has gone up.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by Goronmon on Monday May 22, 2017 @04:43PM (#14396788)
A few years ago you could get lobsters from Market Basket for $3.99 a pound. And they would steam them for you at no charge. My wife and I would go to the beach in the morning and pick up a couple decent size lobsters on the way home for around $10.

That was a fun summer.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by alarat2001 on Thursday May 25, 2017 @04:00PM (#14419730)
In 2012, early warming of the Gulf of Maine precipitated an early and voluminous lobster molt. (The summer lobster are soft shell, meaning they have just molted). This glutted the market, creating dock prices near $2/ lb. During this summer, someone in Maine could buy a lobster for ~4-5 dollars.
Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by tyingq on Monday May 22, 2017 @04:08PM (#14396532)
Some of the New England area McDonalds sell Lobster rolls: https://newengland.com/today/travel/new-england/places-to-ea...

No idea if they are any good, but they are $8.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by cjlars on Monday May 22, 2017 @08:18PM (#14397868)
I've eaten them. It's the worst lobster roll I ever had, but the best McDonalds sandwich I ever had.
Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by ghaff on Monday May 22, 2017 @04:37PM (#14396732)
They're apparently pretty bad. From what I've seen they're mostly a pre-frozen mush mixed in with lots of lettuce.

Lobster rolls are really pretty simple. But they need to be fresh lobster and very little else--which obviously isn't a good match for McDonalds style prep. The good news is that means they're very easy to make at home and many places that sell lobster will even boil them for you.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by Spooky23 on Monday May 22, 2017 @05:47PM (#14397199)
Usually fast food lobster is warm water langistino.

I tried the McLobster a few years ago, it was pretty mediocre.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by flyingfences on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:03AM (#14400775)
If you're actually in New England then you don't have to go to McDank's for a lobster roll.
Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by wcummings on Monday May 22, 2017 @04:38PM (#14396733)
Au Bon Pain used to in New England as well.
Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by rl3 on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:22PM (#14396218)
>I for one will do my part to help pick up the slack in demand.

Likewise. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by nattaylor on Monday May 22, 2017 @09:00PM (#14398050)
Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by hammock on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:30PM (#14396276)
>has there been much change in retail/restaurant lobster prices?

No. Anecdotally, and also supported by data there was an article at some point about it. The worst part is a lot of restaurants use rock lobster instead of Maine lobster

Re:Maine Is Drowning in Lobsters by awkwardtortoise on Monday May 22, 2017 @10:46PM (#14398458)
Nope. We get maine lobsters in the NY area and the price has increased in the last few years. Haven't had lobsters because I refuse to pay extortion prices.