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Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by hiddencost on Monday May 22, 2017 @09:46AM (#14393482)
I've been seen a lot of "reasonable sounding" climate skeptics on HN lately.

What's going on? I struggle to believe this community is _that_ ignorant; either I'm wrong or there's a fairly intentional and sophisticated astroturfing campaign going on.

Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by Udik on Monday May 22, 2017 @10:07AM (#14393638)
Maybe they sound reasonable because they are reasonable?
Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by Certhas on Monday May 22, 2017 @10:25AM (#14393792)
I think reasonable climate sceptic is no longer possible.

To be a climate sceptic requires wilful ignorance of evidence.

Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by echlebek on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @02:19AM (#14399193)
I see this all the time too. There's always some appeal to open-mindedness or an interesting hypothesis.

It's all horseshit of course, in the same vein as antivax.

Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by curiousgeorgio on Monday May 22, 2017 @10:29AM (#14393820)
Have you ever considered the possibility of the alarmists being the ones actually involved in an "intentional and sophisticated astroturfing campaign" of global scale?

You may disagree with climate change skepticism, but you still ought to recognize the fact that a group of government-funded scientists with incomes tied to political agendas all screaming "but almost all of us agree on this thing!" in every media outlet is a bit suspicious (as if the laws of nature have anything to do with size of your bandwagon). Add the fact that they've been demonstrably wrong over and over again for the past 50+ years, and it smells even more fishy. You may not change your position on the matter, but it shouldn't be surprising that even educated people (especially those who have heard these predictions for decades) are skeptical.

Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by andygates on Monday May 22, 2017 @10:50AM (#14394019)
It's not "we agree", it's "all the different strands of evidence agree": that's the difference between a scientific consensus and a social (ie, bandwagon) one.
Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by curiousgeorgio on Monday May 22, 2017 @11:28AM (#14394352)
> all the different strands of evidence agree

Are you referring to evidence that suggests climate is always changing (in which case I also agree!), or evidence of AGW? If it's the latter, I'm afraid you'd be ignoring an incredibly strong body of evidence on the contrary.

Re:Antarctica’s potential collapse could damage coastal citi... by CuriousSkeptic on Monday May 22, 2017 @01:58PM (#14395631)
I'm afraid you've been mislead. The jury is in on this, AGW is not in dispute in the scientific community.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

(The link goes to a page with further references and papers)