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Re:Google in, Google out by pawadu on Monday May 22, 2017 @04:12AM (#14391836)
Yes, but there are two problems with this particular company:

1. they have grown this mentality where they gather any data they can get their hands on - apologize only when/if caught red handed. (remember google street car password gathering?).

2. the more you use their services the more dependent you become. but google have shown zero care for individual consumers. (who do you call if gmail craps out on you?)

Re:Google in, Google out by euyyn on Monday May 22, 2017 @12:40PM (#14394997)
> remember google street car password gathering?

What? Wasn't that "SSID gathering", as in "the name you give your WiFi network, which is then visible to anyone that passes by"? How could a streetview car gather passwords?

Re:Google in, Google out by pawadu on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @07:15AM (#14409108)
Re:Google in, Google out by euyyn on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @12:07PM (#14411064)
Thanks for the link!

From Alan Eustace himself, too: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/10/creating-stronger-pr...

Re:Google in, Google out by joshuamorton on Monday May 22, 2017 @11:32AM (#14394383)
>(who do you call if gmail craps out on you?)

When was the last time gmail crapped out on you?

Re:Google in, Google out by scholia on Monday May 22, 2017 @12:13PM (#14394753)
The most likely scenario is people getting locked out of Gmail https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=locked+out+of+Gmail
Re:Google in, Google out by Mathnerd314 on Monday May 22, 2017 @05:13AM (#14392088)
> data gathering

It's not really any worse an invasion of privacy than Snowden or Wikileaks. At least Google apologizes instead of going on about how information should be free.

> more dependent

Google actively reduces dependence, e.g. by their data takeout option. Obviously there's always going to be some switching cost but it's not like Google is a prison.

> Who do you call if gmail craps out

Well, if you have a SLA, you just call them on their 99.9% uptime guarantee: https://www.cnet.com/news/can-you-trust-your-business-to-goo... I guess if you're a consumer you don't get the same level of support, but it uses the same infrastructure so any problems will show up on the dashboard: https://www.google.com/appsstatus The reparations in all cases are limited to service credits, so you'd just be getting more free use of an already free service.

Re:Google in, Google out by zyx321 on Monday May 22, 2017 @07:48AM (#14392741)
>It's not really any worse an invasion of privacy than Snowden or Wikileaks

So informing people that their government is spying on them is the same as spying on them yourself?